Police erode public faith article

[scumdog]

I agree with you Flip. No one should ever talk to the police.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

I ain't wasting 48+ minutes of MY life watching that load of tripe...

[mstriumph]

jews did it.

dolly did it.

[mstriumph]

Then the one you disadvantage ain't the cop - it's the victim.

Or do you intend to only 'never help' if the investigation doesn't relate to a victim??

You are one of my favourite people ... but, profession-wise, you aren't typical.
If you need help, I'll give it gladly
but if that bastard with his hands on hips hung round with armaments he seemed to think made him a man, the one with bad breath and an attitude to match using his badge to BULLY me about the depth of tread on my front tyre that there was ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with ... if THAT excuse for a human being (or any similar) wanted my help, well, I wouldn't urinate on him if he were on fire and begging

sorry - just the way it is

[Akzle]

If that one's perfectly safe at 70 then why the are others so dangerous at 50?

townies are touched in the head...

[Akzle]

I wouldn't urinate on him if he were on fire and begging

oh but you did for me

[TheDemonLord]

If you want to know the truth about surveys take a look at what Humphrey Appleby had to say about them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA

Hehehe - its been a while since I have watched Yes, Prime Minister!

But yes - Leading questions are such fun things aren't they

[mstriumph]

oh but you did for me

only because I was sorry for having set you on fire ...

[Akzle]

only because I was sorry for having set you on fire ...

could have happened to anyone...and given the places you put candles! Nelly!

[mstriumph]

That's like saying "lets make all the knives blunt so we don't cut anyone". It's not about speed - even around schools. There's a primary school near where I live that is on a 70kph road. I've been through there a number of times just after school got out and all the kids, without exception, are either keeping well off the road or being picked up by parents on the school grounds. If that one's perfectly safe at 70 then why the are others so dangerous at 50?

can't answer, don't know that road
have to say though there could be many reasons, location, visibility, condition/width of road

you seem to be arguing that, just because one brown dog doesn't chase chickens then all brown dogs should be trustworthy in the hen house ... ithat isn't a reasonable arguement ...

[mstriumph]

I..............

The last video I saw by Police regarding speed was pathetic. It starred an ex-Netball player who was talking about a guy who had driven 60km/h in a 50km/h zone and hit a kid who was on a bicycle and pulled out from behind a parked truck. An unfortunate incident, but it would've happened regardless of the speed!!!

She basically stated on the video "if he had spent more time looking at his speedo the kid might not have been hurt so much" - yeh nah, it would have actually been safer if the driver was going faster than 60km/h as he may have got past the location quicker! Even at 50km/h he still would have hit the kid. If he was staring at his speedo, like suggested then his chances of doing damage would be even higher - because his attention is not on the road - resulting in no braking at all.

in many cases there is no other POSSIBLE excuse for the speed limit posted in certain locations ... other than revenue raising

it sort of follows, then, that any attempt to uphold the validity of ALL speed limits on the general basis of 'safety' is - well - moronic

[haydes55]

That's like saying "lets make all the knives blunt so we don't cut anyone". It's not about speed - even around schools. There's a primary school near where I live that is on a 70kph road. I've been through there a number of times just after school got out and all the kids, without exception, are either keeping well off the road or being picked up by parents on the school grounds. If that one's perfectly safe at 70 then why the are others so dangerous at 50?

That's the pokeno one right? I can vouch for that, they have a parking bay where parents can drive to pick up the kids and a good fence/gate.

On a slightly different note, about 500m down the road (heading into pokeno from Tuakau) is a road workers fuck up of a repair job. In the rain the corner is shiny tar on the inside, then drops into a gravel filled repair job several inches below the rest of the road, so if you take the inside line, the bike will slide out into the lower patch, so the bike will drop out from under you, then there isn't a lot of grip there either... I know this corner is dodgy as fuck, and even at slow speeds my bike still slides through the corner.

[scumdog]

could have happened to anyone...and given the places you put candles! Nelly!

Speaking of those candles, your mum wants them back in time for your birthday....

[Berries]

Speaking of those candles, your mum wants them back in time for your birthday....

All four of them?

[swbarnett]

can't answer, don't know that road
have to say though there could be many reasons, location, visibility, condition/width of road

All of which are present irrespective of the presence of a school.

Part of the problem is that most city kids are picked up and don't get the chance to learn road sense walking home.

One other thing I just remembered about that school. I don't think I've ever seen a parent's car parked on the opposite of the road when school gets out.

you seem to be arguing that, just because one brown dog doesn't chase chickens then all brown dogs should be trustworthy in the hen house ... ithat isn't a reasonable arguement ...

This implies that only one brown dog doesn't chase chickens. It would be a more correct analogy to say that most brown dogs don't chase chickens. One brown that chases chickens does not give you the right to treat all brown dogs as if they do. This is called discrimination. This kind of thinking is why some people label all Muslims as terrorists.

Are all men rapists because a very, very small proportion are?

[swbarnett]

That's the pokeno one right? I can vouch for that, they have a parking bay where parents can drive to pick up the kids and a good fence/gate.

The one I'm talking about is Harrisville Rd. school on the north end of Tuakau. I know the one you mean though and, yes they are pretty much the same.

Far too many parents drive their kids to school in the cities. This makes it very hard to provide enough pick up area. I used to pass Westlake Boys High School regularly and the number of SUVs was hard to believe. Impossible to do more than 20kph sometimes with people crawling looking for a space. I'd have to say though, I never once thought 50kph would've been too fast as the students were extremely well behaved as far as the road goes.

On a slightly different note, about 500m down the road (heading into pokeno from Tuakau) is a road workers fuck up of a repair job. In the rain the corner is shiny tar on the inside, then drops into a gravel filled repair job several inches below the rest of the road, so if you take the inside line, the bike will slide out into the lower patch, so the bike will drop out from under you, then there isn't a lot of grip there either... I know this corner is dodgy as fuck, and even at slow speeds my bike still slides through the corner.

Ouch. I haven't been through there recently. To do with the new sub-division perhaps.