Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

[GrayWolf]

Nothing new - I've always done it.

But the 101kph thing is a right 'they sky is falling', people all 'assumed' they WOULD get a ticket for 1kph over the speed limit and drove accordingly.

Why do so many people always latch onto the most negative aspect of anything - and treat it as gospel????


'And they walk amongst us'

complete crap Scummy,
you know full well how 'use of language' can have a required effect, interrogator's, advertiser's have a good working knowledge and use it to project the required message, or extract information. The message was "go over 100 and you WILL be pulled over"... Even if there was a 'disclaimer' that you will get a 'talking to' under 104, the fact of being pulled over has an instant 'fear effect', and you bloody full well know that.
Psychology 101, Pavlov, a trained response to a particular stimuli.
the driving public have reacted EXACTLY as was intended by the message and advertising campaign.
You buggers (head Popo) wanted the reaction you got.

[scumdog]

complete crap Scummy,
you know full well how 'use of language' can have a required effect, interrogator's, advertiser's have a good working knowledge and use it to project the required message, or extract information. The message was "go over 100 and you WILL be pulled over"... Even if there was a 'disclaimer' that you will get a 'talking to' under 104, the fact of being pulled over has an instant 'fear effect', and you bloody full well know that.
Psychology 101, Pavlov, a trained response to a particular stimuli.
the driving public have reacted EXACTLY as was intended by the message and advertising campaign.
You buggers (head Popo) wanted the reaction you got.

So where did the 'pulled over' = 'speeding ticket' come from??

THAT is my issue with this topic.

(The public need to actually think, not dissolve into paranoia...although with seat-belts and cell-phone usage it might be a good thing, sadly for some odd reason it isn't)

[haydes55]

So where did the 'pulled over' = 'speeding ticket' come from??



THAT is my issue with this topic.



(The public need to actually think, not dissolve into paranoia...although with seat-belts and cell-phone usage it might be a good thing, sadly for some odd reason it isn't)

"Anything over the speed limit is speeding" next slogan is "if you speed, expect a ticket". I wonder where people get the ideas that they will be ticketed for 101km/h.... From the 100 billboards, radio ads and tv ads which all say they will or imply they will.

[scumdog]

"Anything over the speed limit is speeding" next slogan is "if you speed, expect a ticket". I wonder where people get the ideas that they will be ticketed for 101km/h.... From the 100 billboards, radio ads and tv ads which all say they will or imply they will.

Must be in the readers mind-set, I never saw it that way, never thought "Oh my. if I get seen doing 101kph I'll get a ticket".
So I never bothered to change my driving/riding habits.

Still, whatever spins your wheels.....

[swbarnett]

So where did the 'pulled over' = 'speeding ticket' come from??

THAT is my issue with this topic.

(The public need to actually think, not dissolve into paranoia...although with seat-belts and cell-phone usage it might be a good thing, sadly for some odd reason it isn't)

Best thing on this subject that's ever been said:

A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.

[GrayWolf]

Must be in the readers mind-set, I never saw it that way, never thought "Oh my. if I get seen doing 101kph I'll get a ticket".
So I never bothered to change my driving/riding habits.

Still, whatever spins your wheels.....

oh ferrchissake,
Scummy it was stated, we WILL stop you, for anything over 100kph.... that's where the public 'got it' from..... as you seem to blithely glibe over, it was a use of language, of course you can say with 'hand on heart' we never said we would ticket you for less than 104, but you know full well the 'inference' is there.. it was what exact use of language was for, to place the 'idea' in peoples minds... getting stopped = a ticket, you know that's how people think, especially those who are general law abiding people who dont have anything to do with the popo, so stop being so obtuse.

[Madness]

So I never bothered to change my driving/riding habits.

Me neither. I don't see what all the fuss is about to be honest

[swbarnett]

getting stopped = a ticket, you know that's how people think,

Actually, I'm not convinced he does. The blue gang seem to have a singular lack of understanding of human nature. They sure as hell ignore it often enough.

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

Must be in the readers mind-set, I never saw it that way, never thought "Oh my. if I get seen doing 101kph I'll get a ticket".
So I never bothered to change my driving/riding habits.

Still, whatever spins your wheels.....

Ya see thats the issue right there. you dont see it "that way" so "that way" must be wrong.

The sooner the police loose that attitude the sooner they will start gaining respect back.

[awayatc]

The sooner the police loose that attitude the sooner they will start gaining respect back.

be quicker and easier to grow tails .........

some things just don't come back....

[swbarnett]

be quicker and easier to grow tails .........

some things just don't come back....

Chicken and egg story really. It's not just the police that have the "us & them" mentality. It seems to pervade almost the whole of society.

[caspernz]

"Anything over the speed limit is speeding" next slogan is "if you speed, expect a ticket". I wonder where people get the ideas that they will be ticketed for 101km/h.... From the 100 billboards, radio ads and tv ads which all say they will or imply they will.

Yep. All the billboards (and media reports) I've seen/heard leading up to, and during this holiday season, said stuff like "anything over the limit is speeding" and "if you're over the limit expect to be stopped" so focusing on whether one would or wouldn't get a ticket for 101 is semantics on the part of police isn't it?

For Joe Public who ventures out onto the big road only a few times a year...the stage is thus set for an already nervous type of driver to focus on the wrong thing perhaps? Add a few impatient/aggro/frustrated drivers who get annoyed with the above...

Kinda feel for the decision makers at Police HQ though, for it's gotta be hard to steer a course the public will buy into, and thus get results. Or has the road toll simply got to the point we should stop pouring endless resources into a diminishing results arena?

[Conquiztador]

oh ferrchissake,
Scummy it was stated, we WILL stop you, for anything over 100kph.... that's where the public 'got it' from..... as you seem to blithely glibe over, it was a use of language, of course you can say with 'hand on heart' we never said we would ticket you for less than 104, but you know full well the 'inference' is there.. it was what exact use of language was for, to place the 'idea' in peoples minds... getting stopped = a ticket, you know that's how people think, especially those who are general law abiding people who dont have anything to do with the popo, so stop being so obtuse.

I can't believe I am about to do this.... but here goes. Was I the only one who heard (on radio) that the "101 is speeding and you will be stopped" was not gonna happen and that the police had reverted back to 104? I put it down to the issues convincing a judge that the driver was doing 100.5 and not 100.4 where rounding up or down (Swedish Ronding) would happen to decide if it was spot on 100 or 1k over at 101. But that was only my assumption.

So as much as I hate all this (see my earlier posts in this thread) I will defend the police re the "nothing has changed" and it was always 104kph.

[FJRider]

... No point hitting people for something that's beyond their control.

It might make Me feel better though ..

[scumdog]

Actually, I'm not convinced he does. The blue gang seem to have a singular lack of understanding of human nature. They sure as hell ignore it often enough.

20+ years at the freezing works plus one or two other jobs over the years certainly gave me an understanding of human nature, when I left there I had no expectations that people outside the works were any different.

And KB again proves that people are the same everywhere.

One common theme: When you're a cop people think you've been one from the time you left school.... and if one or two cops blot their copy, say something the non-cops don't agree with or similar? - then the rest of them must be just the same.

THAT is an aspect of human nature. ces't la vie