Road rage fail: Aggressive NZ driver who hates cyclists

[mstriumph]

PMS-ing apparently. Excellent trollage. I will leave my response up so you can see how successful you were. :blush:

tsk - if I'm a troll, you are a bore ... and, apparently, a bore with pms and a pechant for white lycra and no undies

- your choice - so be it - let it all hang out .... back on your bike

[mstriumph]

Perhaps it's time you got back on a cycle, fatty.

i ride a bike - i'm far from fat (don't you think that calling women that upset you 'fat' is a bit .... erm ... sexist? does it work on your wife? let me talk to her )

I still wouldn't wear white lycra with no undies ... have more respect both for myself and for other road users (think of the CHILDREN lol)

[bogan]

i ride a bike - i'm far from fat (don't you think that calling women that upset you 'fat' is a bit .... erm ... sexist? does it work on your wife? let me talk to her )

I still wouldn't wear white lycra with no undies ... have more respect both for myself and for other road users (think of the CHILDREN lol)

You're a woman? you've never mentioned that before So I should probably have clarified, when I said get on a cycle, I didn't mean a menstrual one.

You made a piss poor reply to HDC's valid point, so I took the piss out of it. You don't have to try and play the gender card every time someone takes the piss you know.

[mossy1200]

Holy smoke.

Did someone say these spandos have no underwear on?

Next one rubs up against me in a café gets the bash.

[Berries]

The BS that they also drive and pay ACC is just that. We motorists are allowed multiple vehicles but each and everyone must be registered and warranted.
Why are they exempt.

A typical response from cyclists and one I have always grudgingly accepted, but I had never looked at it the way you do. And you are right.

[PrincessBandit]

Why do motorbikes require rear view mirrors when they don't often have anyone driving behind yet pushbikes don't require them and it would serve them well to know if cars are waiting to pass.

When I got back on a pushbike after, ahem, decades (hadn't ridden one since school basically) it gave me the shits not having a mirror. Everyone laughed at me when I got an aftermarket one, similar to a ginny, attached to the right handlebar for my own peace of mind. I sold that bicycle and the one I have now has no mirror; it's not really needed as my security blanket any more, but I would be quite happy if bikes came already equipped with them

[FJRider]

A typical response from cyclists and one I have always grudgingly accepted, but I had never looked at it the way you do. And you are right.

Cyclists are no different to motorcyclists ... they pick and choose which part of legislation they will adhere to ... where and when it suits them (at the time)

Below is a few of my personal favorites ...

Always ride as near as you can to the left side of the road. If you are holding back traffic you must move as far as possible to the left side of the road to allow traffic to pass, as soon as you can.

However, you do need to cycle in a sensible position on the road to keep safe. See Cyclist responsibilities for more information.

Two cyclists can ride next to each other but should take into account the keep left rule and not hold back traffic.

Three or more people cycling next to each other is illegal, except in the case of a road race that has been given traffic management approval from a road controlling authority.

Ride in single file when passing vehicles.

Use hand signals to show other road users what you are doing.

When cycling behind other cyclists and vehicles you must be able to stop, keeping clear of the vehicle in front, if it stops suddenly. It is recommended you keep at least two seconds behind.

You are only allowed to cycle on the footpath if you are: delivering newspapers or mail, or you are riding a small wheeled recreational device that has a wheel diameter of less than 355 millimetres (typically tricycles or small children's bicycles).


You must obey all signs and signals.

You must obey the give way rules and give way at pedestrian crossings.

You must obey local bylaws (these often cover cycles and parks).

Give way to emergency vehicles when their sirens are on or when lights are flashing. It is a good idea to pull over to the kerb and stop.

[unstuck]

Cyclists are no different to motorcyclists ... they pick and choose which part of legislation they will adhere to ... where and when it suits them (at the time)

Yep, guilty.

[TheDemonLord]

"as near as practicable"

To me this suggests as near as is safe. As does the following passage about cyclists riding abreast.

"11.10Riding abreast
(1)A person must not ride a cycle or moped on a roadway so that it remains abreast and to the right of—
(a)2 other vehicles that are cycles or mopeds; or
(b)1 other cycle or moped while that cycle or moped is overtaking and passing another vehicle, including a parked vehicle; or
(c)any other vehicle having 3 or more road wheels (including a motorcycle fitted with a sidecar).
(2)Subclause (1) does not apply if cyclists are participating in a race that is subject to a traffic management plan agreed by the road controlling authority."

Why do you disagree with it though? if the lane is not wide enough for two, why should the one in front still try to keep hard left?

This is my issue - most of the time (unless you are driving a yank tank on a really narrow road) there is plenty of room to safely pass, if the Cyclist is keeping left.

Secondly - as near as safe - if you are in the middle of the road and car has to swerve to avoid hitting you (for whatever reason) they have that much more to swerve than if you were keeping left and finally - if you are in the middle and get hit, you are more likely to either go over (serious injury) or go under (death) as opposed to being side swiped (unless you are unlucky and get dragged under) So the safety aspect of not keeping left is indispute - I did try and find something to back this up, but interestingly there doesn't appear to be any studies on it.

[TheDemonLord]

Cyclists are no different to motorcyclists ... they pick and choose which part of legislation they will adhere to ... where and when it suits them (at the time)

Below is a few of my personal favorites ...

^^^^ This - and I am just as guilty as those I rail against

[bogan]

This is my issue - most of the time (unless you are driving a yank tank on a really narrow road) there is plenty of room to safely pass, if the Cyclist is keeping left.

Secondly - as near as safe - if you are in the middle of the road and car has to swerve to avoid hitting you (for whatever reason) they have that much more to swerve than if you were keeping left and finally - if you are in the middle and get hit, you are more likely to either go over (serious injury) or go under (death) as opposed to being side swiped (unless you are unlucky and get dragged under) So the safety aspect of not keeping left is indispute - I did try and find something to back this up, but interestingly there doesn't appear to be any studies on it.

And if there is plenty of room to safely pass the cyclist should be keeping left, it is when there is not (as in the video) that a cyclist is better off being a bit further in.

I'm not saying ride bang in the middle, just that riding to ensure the driver behind knows it is unsafe to pass unless they can use the oncoming lane. In the unlikely event that a driver hit the cyclist at speed I would still expect it to be a sidewswipe.

[neels]

I only saw 2 unsafe things in that video, the filming fuckwit filming while he's driving, and the filming fuckwit overtaking in the face of oncoming traffic while he's too busy filming to see what's coming up the road towards him. Please excuse in the previous sentence the colloquial term filming, as there is almost no film in use anywhere in the world any more.

It's not the cyclists fault that he's driving some gutless piece of crap that can't overtake a bunch of cyclists at 30kph with 500m of clear road in front of him, I'm surprised it made it up the slight uphill that caused him such angst at his lack of power to overtake.

[BMWST?]

Why do motorbikes require rear view mirrors when they don't often have anyone driving behind yet pushbikes don't require them and it would serve them well to know if cars are waiting to pass.
If you honk to let them know your there or flash lights it would go down like a road rage attempt on their lives.

ya dont need mirrors you can hear cars coming for minutes before they actually catch up

[Berries]

I only saw 2 unsafe things in that video, the filming fuckwit filming while he's driving, and the filming fuckwit overtaking in the face of oncoming traffic while he's too busy filming to see what's coming up the road towards him. Please excuse in the previous sentence the colloquial term filming, as there is almost no film in use anywhere in the world any more.

It's not the cyclists fault that he's driving some gutless piece of crap that can't overtake a bunch of cyclists at 30kph with 500m of clear road in front of him, I'm surprised it made it up the slight uphill that caused him such angst at his lack of power to overtake.

You wear lycra don't you?

[neels]

You wear lycra don't you?

I find this sort of comment interesting.

People love hating on cyclists wearing lycra, which is actually appropriate cycling clothing designed for the use of people engaged in the activity of cycling, and yet for some reason it has become some generic derisive term for cyclists appropriately attired for the activity they are currently engaged in.

Why not go hating on the the people shopping for chips and coke at the warehouse wearing their Melbourne storm shorts or Warriors jersey, who have absolutely no intention of playing a game of rugby league, or the dickhead who gets out of his 1998 3.8 Commodore and puts on his HSV jacket, these are the people who are not appropriately attired for their given activity, and are an offense on society in general.

And yes I do, while riding my bike(s), much as I wear my motorcycle pants and jacket while riding my motorcycle, and an appropriate hat when driving a tractor and holding up traffic.