The Ukraine

**mashman** · 19th January 2015, 16:22

Originally Posted by oldrider

Slow loading for sure!

Sure enough Dumb and Dumber are at it again determined to "have their war against Russia" and even dumber are those that think Putin is the aggressor!

But wait, what is this? A chance for peace? : http://www.strategic-culture.org/new...aggressor.html

Do any of the represented public have an appetite for war?

**oldrider** · 19th January 2015, 21:57

Originally Posted by mashman

Do any of the represented public have an appetite for war?

NO - well if there are any that do it will not be for very long!

Once they realise they can't change painfully bad situations with a remote they will lose interest in war really really fast!

Too late - those that orchestrate war are never involved in it and won't stop it until they are ready - win or lose!

The only way to prevent war is not to participate in the first place!

**Brian d marge** · 20th January 2015, 00:18

dont worry i wont participate . . .to busy knitting names in me scarf

**mashman** · 20th January 2015, 09:02

Originally Posted by oldrider

The only way to prevent war is not to participate in the first place!

Sounds like a damned fine plan to me... oh, and replace any leaders that believe that war is the answer too.

**oldrider** · 21st January 2015, 16:38

Bit of an update on Putin and Russia today! (Not from USA/Israeli point of view) :http://www.unz.com/ishamir/trolling-russia/

**Brian d marge** · 21st January 2015, 17:00

japans just bought a shit load of new gear . . . .

dodgy fuckrs know somethings up i reckon

**awa355** · 21st January 2015, 17:06

Originally Posted by oldrider

The only way to prevent war is not to participate in the first place!

Unfortunately, for that to work, the guy on the other side of the fence has to believe it as well.

**Brian d marge** · 21st January 2015, 17:12

Originally Posted by awa355

Unfortunately, for that to work, the guy on the other side of the fence has to believe it as well.

hes busy with the green . . .dont worry

**oldrider** · 21st January 2015, 17:36

Originally Posted by awa355

Unfortunately, for that to work, the guy on the other side of the fence has to believe it as well.

True but then it is defense not an act of war as the aggressor - I think there is a difference unless our politicians are lying to us! (they wouldn't do that would they?)

**SPman** · 21st January 2015, 19:17

Originally Posted by Brian d marge

japans just bought a shit load of new gear . . . .

dodgy fuckrs know somethings up i reckon

Yep - Obama has recruited them to help "contain" China. Biggest spend since the war, isn't it?

**Brian d marge** · 21st January 2015, 21:19

Originally Posted by SPman

Yep - Obama has recruited them to help "contain" China. Biggest spend since the war, isn't it?

tis indeed and my beer has gone up . .im paying for that war

i should stop drinking then the war will never happen . .cant do much warring with no money

should . . .

**mashman** · 22nd January 2015, 07:16

Nicknamed the 'The Punisher'.

**oldrider** · 22nd January 2015, 08:42

Originally Posted by mashman

Nicknamed the 'The Punisher'.

She doesn't want to see occupation again - well neither does Putin - and obviously by her words he hasn't - why do they keep saying he has?

Maybe it is simply NATO and USA that have invaded and occupied their minds - their neighbours in their Eastern state want to remain Russians as part of Russia!

Democracy at work but not allowed or accepted by the champions of democracy - USA - only if it suits them and it goes their way!