Annual road toll up 44

**Madness** · 25th January 2015, 21:31

Originally Posted by swbarnett

Like I said - over confidence. How can you really know if you weren't there?

Because he's you know, basically Jesus.

**haydes55** · 25th January 2015, 21:31

Originally Posted by Madness

Because he's you know, basically Jesus.

And don't you forget it.

**Madness** · 25th January 2015, 21:33

Originally Posted by haydes55

And don't you forget it.

Don't worry, I won't. I hope I'll be here to remind you one day, if you're still here that is, when the irony will be of biblical proportions.

**haydes55** · 25th January 2015, 22:34

Originally Posted by Madness

Don't worry, I won't. I hope I'll be here to remind you one day, if you're still here that is, when the irony will be of biblical proportions.

The true irony is, I'm being berated for my driving. Yet I drive a vehicle which can stop faster than a motorbike, around corners especially. I drive it at slower speeds than most of you ride, especially around corners. Just because I occasionally, deliberately test my control of the vehicle, and the available grip, I'm unsafe?

Glass houses etc. Can you stop your motorbike around a corner after hitting a patch of gravel or oil and staring at a herd of cattle? I know I can stop my van in time, I've practised.

**Madness** · 25th January 2015, 22:44

Originally Posted by haydes55

I'm unsafe?

I'm not giving you shit for being unsafe. I'm giving you shit because you're a jumped up little wankstain in a van who thinks he's Jesus. Basically.

**haydes55** · 25th January 2015, 22:53

Originally Posted by Madness

I'm not giving you shit for being unsafe. I'm giving you shit because you're a jumped up little wankstain in a van who thinks he's Jesus. Basically.

Haha just out there chopping down tall poppies?

I'm just joking with the Jesus thing, winding up christians is a hobby.

I'm not claiming to be the best driver, I'm not claiming to be invincible. I'm claiming I do what I can to improve my driving skills and reduce my risks of a crash.

**Madness** · 25th January 2015, 22:59

Originally Posted by haydes55

Haha just out there chopping down tall poppies?

But you're not a tall poppy. You're just a dickhead in a van.

Originally Posted by Jesus, Basically

I'm just joking with the Jesus thing, winding up christians is a hobby.

The winding up thing is to be applauded but your delivery sucks, try again.

Originally Posted by Jesus, Basically

I'm not claiming to be the best driver, I'm not claiming to be invincible. I'm claiming I do what I can to improve my driving skills and reduce my risks of a crash.

Maybe it's not what you're claiming, but how you're claiming it?

**haydes55** · 25th January 2015, 23:11

Originally Posted by Madness

But you're not a tall poppy. You're just a dickhead in a van.

The winding up thing is to be applauded. Your delivery sucks, try again.

Maybe it's not what you're claiming, but how you're claiming it?

I'm not even a short poppy.....

My ingrish compreehension and literary skills certainly lack. I know I'm safe, I can see my driving, I know how often I'm at risk and manage those risks each time. I don't care if no one on here believes me. In the mean time, its a good flame war, so carry on.

**ellipsis** · 26th January 2015, 07:52

...the head of the NZ Water Safety Council's comments on the amount of drownings of late and the fact that they are all males could easily slide in here as relevant...he believes the cause is, being unaware of the dangers and an inflated sense of ones capabilities...sound familiar?...

**YellowDog** · 26th January 2015, 08:03

The answer to the road toll issue is already out there. I just don't want to still be alive when we are all forced into Google steering-wheel-less vehicles

**Akzle** · 26th January 2015, 08:05

Originally Posted by ellipsis

...the head of the NZ Water Safety Council's comments on the amount of drownings of late and the fact that they are all males could easily slide in here as relevant...

were they muddercyclists, or internet heroes?

**Madness** · 26th January 2015, 08:20

Originally Posted by ellipsis

...the head of the NZ Water Safety Council's comments on the amount of drownings of late and the fact that they are all males could easily slide in here as relevant...he believes the cause is, being unaware of the dangers and an inflated sense of ones capabilities...sound familiar?...

I thought Jesus could walk on water?

**Edbear** · 26th January 2015, 10:21

Originally Posted by ellipsis

...the head of the NZ Water Safety Council's comments on the amount of drownings of late and the fact that they are all males could easily slide in here as relevant...he believes the cause is, being unaware of the dangers and an inflated sense of ones capabilities...sound familiar?...

The younger ones tend to dismiss or minimise the dangers especially if warned by older people or authorities. And, yes, an inflated view of their capabilities is normal for their age having not generally had to face their limitations as most older ones have.

Certainly celebrate your youth and strength but temper it by taking heed of those who have the experience.

**haydes55** · 26th January 2015, 10:46

Originally Posted by Edbear

The younger ones tend to dismiss or minimise the dangers especially if warned by older people or authorities. And, yes, an inflated view of their capabilities is normal for their age having not generally had to face their limitations as most older ones have.

Certainly celebrate your youth and strength but temper it by taking heed of those who have the experience.

Basically, live in fear of death, do everything in life the boring way to try live as long as possible. I'd rather live to be 30 and enjoy those years, than live to 90 having never tested my limitations.

I can't fly, so I won't jump of a cliff. If I couldn't swim, I wouldn't go swimming in the ocean.