Some Dumb Tree

[mashman]

Either way there's all too much beating around the bush.

I wood knot disagree.

[awa355]

Many years ago I was a crosscutter in a logging gang clearing old native forest for pine planting down Pureora way. Last big native I felled was a beautiful tall Matai. I can still remember the creaking of the trunk breaking away from the holding wood and the crash as the tree hit the ground and the silence afterwards.
Dropping the tree was part of the clearing operation but that didn't help me feel any better. Possibly 5 or 6 hundred years of living destroyed in 30 minutes. Stump was about 1.5 metres across, mostly solid heartwood.

[neels]

I do have issues with bloody dogooders who take it upon themselves to decide what should stay and what should go on other peoples property. Has a tree expert of any kind been consulted to establish if this particular specimen should be preserved, or is it just emotive crap?

Brings to mind the idiots who wanted to save the old buildings in Christchurch that didn't belong to them, but bore no responsibility when they fell down and killed people in the next earthquake, idealism is nice but not always appropriate

[nzspokes]

Do you like fish from the ocean? How about you go buy it then

No. I hate fish.

Land can be bought and sold, last I looked ocean can not.

[pete376403]

I do have issues with bloody dogooders who take it upon themselves to decide what should stay and what should go on other peoples property. Has a tree expert of any kind been consulted to establish if this particular specimen should be preserved, or is it just emotive crap?

Brings to mind the idiots who wanted to save the old buildings in Christchurch that didn't belong to them, but bore no responsibility when they fell down and killed people in the next earthquake, idealism is nice but not always appropriate

The "do-gooders" had to move quickly to stop the trees being felled as there had be little or no consultation about the trees beforehand. By the time an expert had been organised to verify the tree it would have been a pile of woodchips

[Woodman]

I'm afraid by definition it is just a tree, all that other stuff is made up, like santa and jesus.

maui cut one up to make a boat to fish up an island with a whale jaw bone, but its ok cos he was black.

shouldn't you hippie cunts be at womad?

Laws and torts are just made up too.

[TheDemonLord]

The "do-gooders" had to move quickly to stop the trees being felled as there had be little or no consultation about the trees beforehand. By the time an expert had been organised to verify the tree it would have been a pile of woodchips

As considering he had consent to turn it into a pile of Woodchips - everything would have been as it should.

[Akzle]

Has a tree expert of any kind been consulted to establish if this particular specimen should be preserved, or is it just emotive crap?

an 'arborist' (quite possibly on teh payroll) did provide a report (all this information is out there if you care to look)
however, upon review by someone who know's more about trees and less about chainsaws, and has a stack of acronyms after their name, found that the 'report' was 98% bollox.
(the arborist report included things like "kauri's can't grow on their own and need others roots to hold them up, so this one is going to fall on a preschool and kill all the kiddies")

Land can be bought and sold, last I looked ocean can not.

fucktually incorrect.
you can buy "titles"
BUT the jurisdiction of the crown encompasses ONLY water, not land. (admiralty law eh)

Laws and torts are just made up too.

rbjiafp.

[Akzle]

As considering he had consent to turn it into a pile of Woodchips - everything would have been as it should.

who has the 'authority' to give CONsent?? len brown?

[Voltaire]

The "do-gooders" had to move quickly to stop the trees being felled as there had be little or no consultation about the trees beforehand. By the time an expert had been organised to verify the tree it would have been a pile of woodchips

There is a 'cosy' relationship between developers the council, my mate found that out when they knocked an old villa down next to him and built 4 houses despite boundary issues and they just chopped down all the native trees.
The Council and Developers threatened him with legal action if he kicked up a fuss.

The kauri was there when they bought it and everyone knows you can't just chop them down, they manipulated the system.

[oldrider]

Aucklanders have got the Mayor and council that they deserve - only problem is (for the rest of NZ) that Auckland represents NZ in the real world!

[nodrog:Me]

Laws and torts are just made up too.

ROFFLE, typical hippie answer.

[Akzle]

ROFFLE, typical hippie answer.

what is the E for? or the other F for that matter???

[oldrider]

what is the E for? or the other F for that matter???

rbjiafp. Yellow mellow

[Voltaire]

Aucklanders have got the Mayor and council that they deserve - only problem is (for the rest of NZ) that Auckland represents NZ in the real world!

...and the Government and the seemingly unregulated immigration, 0 hour contracts, lack of house construction, place is going to Hell in a handcart.

I suspect the people who could run a city or country are not the same ones who actually get to do it...