Mark Lundy - miscarriage of justice?

**awa355** · 1st April 2015, 19:43

There is bound to be an appeal at some stage.

**korimako1** · 1st April 2015, 20:49

Originally Posted by oldrider

Hmmm -- perhaps the jury had already made up their minds from the last (first?) trial? - I would never elect trial by jury in this country!

That is of course if I had the option! - they call it judged by 12 of your peers? - fuck that!

Not from what I have seen personally in Christchurch!

Gutted with this decision. You are right of course. This case was far too complex for Joe average. I observed for a couple of days, Jurors yawning, fiddling with their nails, not paying attention during vital evidence and even dosing off on two occasions by more than one juror while I was there. They where thoroughly bored by the whole event. Prejudged maybe, biased probably. Suffering from the same tunnel vision as the Police, you decide. Perhaps a panel of 5 judges would have been fairer. At least they would have understood the legal and scientific arguments and reasonable doubt.

**Katman** · 1st April 2015, 20:58

Originally Posted by korimako1

Gutted with this decision. You are right of course. This case was far too complex for Joe average. I observed for a couple of days, Jurors yawning, fiddling with their nails, not paying attention during vital evidence and even dosing off on two occasions by more than one juror while I was there. They where thoroughly bored by the whole event. Prejudged maybe, biased probably. Suffering from the same tunnel vision as the Police, you decide. Perhaps a panel of 5 judges would have been fairer. At least they would have understood the legal and scientific arguments and reasonable doubt.

I served on a jury many years ago where one of the members (an old guy) sat there slurping on a bottle of cough medicine every day. It was clearly the only way he could legally get alcohol into his system while performing his civic duty.

At the end of the trial the total sum of his contribution to the deliberation was "They're all guilty, can I go home now?"

**Crasherfromwayback** · 1st April 2015, 22:57

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...n-in-the-world

**Katman** · 2nd April 2015, 07:01

Hey, and we all know the police never plant evidence, right?

**Crasherfromwayback** · 2nd April 2015, 07:03

Originally Posted by Katman

Hey, and we all know the police never plant evidence, right?

Hell no! Have you been watching *I'm innocent* on the telly?

**Katman** · 2nd April 2015, 07:09

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Hell no! Have you been watching *I'm innocent* on the telly?

Sure did.

Doesn't give one much faith in our justice system.

**Maha** · 2nd April 2015, 07:29

Originally Posted by Katman

Hey, and we all know the police never plant evidence, right?

Incorrect,

When a few motorcyclists act like wankers on the road, and the general public lump all bikers into the same category, are they (the general public) correct in doing so?

**Crasherfromwayback** · 2nd April 2015, 07:30

Originally Posted by Katman

Sure did.

Doesn't give one much faith in our justice system.

Ditto. Last nights one was a shocker. The officer involved should be done for perverting the course of justice as well as perjury!

**Flip** · 2nd April 2015, 12:38

I was very dissapointed with the rozza also.

Who would want to end up in jail because they crashed a company car/rozzamobile?

**Katman** · 2nd April 2015, 12:42

Originally Posted by Maha

Incorrect,

When a few motorcyclists act like wankers on the road, and the general public lump all bikers into the same category, are they (the general public) correct in doing so?

What's your point?