Mark Lundy - miscarriage of justice?

[ruaphu]

Ah well, on the positive side.

At least liddle ole Marky is over hump day, with only another eight years till he's allowed out.

He will most probably spend his time improving on his funeral theatric skills for when he finds his boyfriend murdered with a blunt object on coming home from another hooker 'lay'-den sink sales trip, and making sure he ain't got brain matter on his $4 work shirt.




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[korimako1]

[QUOTE=oldrider;1130848344]

Looks like the Easter break was fast approaching and the jury had already made up their mind before the trial which was longer than they could concentrate anyway!

Beyond all reasonable doubt? - justice? - will we ever really know?

Typical TV mentality - change the channel and lets get the hell out of here!

Yes, you are right, we will never really know. unfortunately this trial has raised even more questions.

[Genie]

Miscarriage of money more like. He's cost this country thousands .... the only one that knows what happened and is still living, is the murderer. Whether that was Mark Lundy or not, I do not know.

I pray that his wife and daughter, sadly, his name I remember, but not theirs. That is wrong, their names should be remembered, anyway, I pray their souls have peace and have well and truly moved on to a better existence.

[oldrider]

[QUOTE=korimako1;1130848388]

Yes, you are right, we will never really know. unfortunately this trial has raised even more questions.

Winston001 said it all really - the privy counsel simply told them to go back and do the job properly - unfortunately, the question still remains!

Did they do it right this time? - Lundy still has the right of appeal but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one! - more $$$$$$$ and closed minds?

[FJRider]

Winston001 said it all really - the privy counsel simply told them to go back and do the job properly - unfortunately, the question still remains!

Did they do it right this time? - Lundy still has the right of appeal but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one! - more $$$$$$$ and closed minds?

If the full due process of New Zealand law was followed in the recent trial ... (with the same result as the last one) no more questions are left to be asked.

[Crasherfromwayback]

sadly, his name I remember, but not theirs. .

Christine and Amber.

[korimako1]

If the full due process of New Zealand law was followed in the recent trial ... (with the same result as the last one) no more questions are left to be asked.

I understand what you are saying, but I think there are plenty of questions to be asked. Teina Pora was convicted twice what a bloody shambles that was.
Jury trials make a mockery of the system, this case highlights that.

[Winston001]

I understand what you are saying, but I think there are plenty of questions to be asked.

Teina Pora was convicted twice what a bloody shambles that was.

Jury trials make a mockery of the system, this case highlights that.

Lets not overegg the cake. Teina Pora admitted in statements to the police that he was involved in the murder of Susan Burdett - statements made a full year after her death. It would have been incomprehensible to anyone if the police then just released him and sent him on his way.

Tragedy heaped on tragedy. Turns out Teina Pora was not the sharpest knife in the drawer and went along with accusations suggested to him. Sad but not the fault of the police or the prosecution.

[Katman]

Lets not overegg the cake. Teina Pora admitted in statements to the police that he was involved in the murder of Susan Burdett - statements made a full year after her death. It would have been incomprehensible to anyone if the police then just released him and sent him on his way.

Tragedy heaped on tragedy. Turns out Teina Pora was not the sharpest knife in the drawer and went along with accusations suggested to him. Sad but not the fault of the police or the prosecution.

Don't try to polish a turd Winston.

The police fixated on an easy conviction rather than pursuing a logical truth.

[Crasherfromwayback]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...s-photographer

[98tls]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...s-photographer

About sums it up nicely i reckon,hope the prick gets one up the arse daily until released.

[husaberg]

In front of Justice Husaberg.

Lets not overegg the cake. Teina Pora admitted in statements to the police that he was involved in the murder of Susan Burdett - statements made a full year after her death. It would have been incomprehensible to anyone if the police then just released him and sent him on his way.

Tragedy heaped on tragedy. Turns out Teina Pora was not the sharpest knife in the drawer and went along with accusations suggested to him. Sad but not the fault of the police or the prosecution.

Don't try to polish a turd Winston.

The police fixated on an easy conviction rather than pursuing a logical truth.

At least justice husaberg is smart enough to realise.

That the Police Association officially called for a review of Pora's conviction, citing "sufficient concern among some senior detectives to warrant an inquiry"

That he was convicted twice not by the police, but the NZ justice system

That he was seemingly very poorly represented by his defence council in both trials which included his lawyer not seeing fit to pursue that fact he suffered from erectile dysfunction.

But as Winston said what was against him was that fact that he made confessions to it. As in spite of what you see on TV people very rarely confess to crimes they don't commit.

In fact if you ask any corrections officer they will tell you very very few people in prison will ever admit they were guilty of any crime.

After initially claiming he acted as a lookout for the two Mongrel Mob members,
he later said he went into the house after "hearing noises and seeing the crimes being carried out".
Still later, he said he held Burdett down by the arms while the others raped her.
In 1995, once Pora was in prison, he provided three more names to police after they offered him another $50,000 and said they would help when he came up for parole

[oldrider]

In fact if you ask any corrections officer they will tell you very very few people in prison will ever admit they were guilty of any crime.

Really husa? - Funny how Crown Prosecution was happy to believe the claim of a dead beat jail inmate that Lundy confessed to him as part of their case then!

[husaberg]

Really husa? - Funny how Crown Prosecution was happy to believe the claim of a dead beat jail inmate that Lundy confessed to him as part of their case then!

Really yes, ask any corrections officer..........
Pretty much no one in prison will ever admit to any guilt for what they have been convicted of, (to a corrections officer anyway.)
I can't speak of what they say to each other, but I get the impression it is not really spoken about much.
Almost as if it a code of conduct between the inmates.
On the other hand there is no honour amongst thieves either is there........

I'm pretty sure Lundy was not convicted solely on any prison inmates testimony.
It certainly never swayed me much.
Then again I never thought he was innocent prior to that.
Setting aside the physical evidence.

Lundy's testimonies and accounts of his behaviour had a huge number of contradictions from witness accounts of his behaviour.
Both prior and subsequent to the murders.
That fact that his defence sought to attack and accuse witnesses of the murder during the trial was in itself also pretty damming for Mr Lundy.

Pora on the other hand I hope he gets some decent compensation.

[korimako1]

That fact that his defence sought to attack and accuse witnesses of the murder during the trial was in itself also pretty damming for Mr Lundy.

That witness had more evidence on him pointing to an involvement than lundy.
80 plus suspects 5 not eliminated at the first trial, all on a 7pm timeframe. Police claim they reinvestigated and examined all the suspects again. do you believe that, and the timeframe now for time of death was between 2.30am and 4.30am. oh yes they still had full stomachs at the autopsy from the 6pm Mcdonalds meal. wow indigestible, the Verdict as well as the food