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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    I wonder what information the ex-leader of the Russian opposition party had...

    Edit: Oh. About to leak documentary evidence of Russian involvement in the Ukraine.
    Or the CIA or Mossad etc thought it would help destabilize Russia and create extreme division!

    Now that would be unusual for them to think and behave like that! - Wouldn't it? - Surely a first for them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Or the CIA or Mossad etc thought it would help destabilize Russia and create extreme division!

    Now that would be unusual for them to think and behave like that! - Wouldn't it? - Surely a first for them!
    Attempting to assassinate a party leader in the Kremlin? Most unlikely.
    I'm sure that the experts here will be able to explain why all the Moscow police were conspicuous by their absence (very unusual) that night.
    Remind me who putin worked for again?
    Remind me of how many ex-employees of that workplace are now working for him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Attempting to assassinate a party leader in the Kremlin? Most unlikely.
    I'm sure that the experts here will be able to explain why all the Moscow police were conspicuous by their absence (very unusual) that night.
    Remind me who putin worked for again?
    Remind me of how many ex-employees of that workplace are now working for him?
    OK I will give you that but

    Remind us again how much disinformation comes to us from the USA!

    Remind us again the ratio of interference into other countries affairs by USA compared to any other country!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Remind us again how much disinformation comes to us from the USA!

    Remind us again the ratio of interference into other countries affairs by USA compared to any other country!
    Far too much disinformation from the USA, along with every other country providing their own versions of "the truth". The same applies with interference. It's called politics.
    There is no end to it.
    Sadly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Far too much disinformation from the USA, along with every other country providing their own versions of "the truth". The same applies with interference. It's called politics.
    There is no end to it.
    Sadly.
    Very true!

    Politics?

    What a strange wobbly version we have here - all interchangeable - all inter-reliant self focused and unidirectional - finding where to direct your vote is a mystery!

    Kinda like shooting pool with a piece of soft rope!

    Anyway - I do not claim to know for sure where Putin (really) fits but I can clearly see that the USA is run by AIPAC and Israel is the tail wagging the big USA dog!

    Why on earth would Russia behave the way that USA NATO etc claims they are? - it makes no sense!

    Why on earth would Iran break years of non aggressive tradition - as opposed to Israeli history of aggression - the way Netanyahu claims?

    Who can we believe with any confidence? (RT seems to be the least biased MSM outlet)

    This situation does not fill me with confidence for our (grand) children's future!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Attempting to assassinate a party leader in the Kremlin? Most unlikely.
    I'm sure that the experts here will be able to explain why all the Moscow police were conspicuous by their absence (very unusual) that night.
    Remind me who putin worked for again?
    Remind me of how many ex-employees of that workplace are now working for him?
    Take that analysis and apply it to the Kennedy assassinations.

    The way they operate? Regime change is all about creating a void by removal of one party, so another (better trained and more effective) party can be shoe horned in. The last guy was a nice guy but wasn't making traction. We can speculate who best profits from it, but the best evidence will be evaluation of what the new boy does. Will he have big sharp teeth, or pussy lips and gums?

    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Who can we believe with any confidence? (RT seems to be the least biased MSM outlet)
    I have caught RT using the exact same segment of a Putin interview in separate releases about two different topics with two entirely different translations. While I wouldn't disagree with your analysis, it's only because of the extremely poor choices provided by mainstream media.

    Have no illusions and search widely if you want a chance to figure out what's fact from fiction. I look at lots of countries mainstream media sites and find the public comments are often more revealing than the official story. Israel is quite interesting like that. Lots of heartening stuff if you look for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angle View Post
    Russian occupant (English subtitles):
    http://youtu.be/8mlOfvk02_Q
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    17 billion

    thats the Ukraine fked then

    watch Monsanto move in !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    17 billion

    thats the Ukraine fked then

    watch Monsanto move in !!!

    Stephen
    He who pays the piper calls the tune - have been calling it all along beneath the covers! - Who needs enemies when they have NATO/USA for friends? FFS!

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    thats the Ukraine fked then
    Ukraine unofficially has 272 percent inflation - The Washington Post


    http://bread-circuses-today.blogspot...2-percent.html

    "It's hard to overstate how challenged Ukraine is. Its economy has actually shrunk since communism ended in 1991. Or since 1992. Or even 1993. That's because communism never really did end. Ukraine just traded party bosses for oligarchs"
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    He who pays the piper calls the tune - have been calling it all along beneath the covers! - Who needs enemies when they have NATO/USA for friends? FFS!
    he who has the majority of the voting rights in the IMF calls the tune ...a tune that was composed by Shylock and his mates ...
    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    Ukraine unofficially has 272 percent inflation - The Washington Post


    http://bread-circuses-today.blogspot...2-percent.html

    "It's hard to overstate how challenged Ukraine is. Its economy has actually shrunk since communism ended in 1991. Or since 1992. Or even 1993. That's because communism never really did end. Ukraine just traded party bosses for oligarchs"
    272 percent .....are we talking a collapsed currency here???? wonder what will happen when the petro dollar goes belly up ......

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    "Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    "It's hard to overstate how challenged Ukraine is. Its economy has actually shrunk since communism ended in 1991. Or since 1992. Or even 1993. That's because communism never really did end. Ukraine just traded party bosses for oligarchs"
    ...so the EU saw an opportunity to expand itself, the people were dead keen on the idea of an end to the corruption but Putin decided that a West-looking Ukraine was unacceptable and here we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD View Post
    ...so the EU saw an opportunity to expand itself, the people were dead keen on the idea of an end to the corruption but Putin decided that a West-looking Ukraine was unacceptable and here we are.
    Putin? - Just someone to blame!

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    A short documentary about a former Ukrainian Army officer from Donetsk:

    Cras ingens iterabimus aequor.

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    Ukraine bans communism & Nazism, celebrates UPA nationalists as 'freedom fighters'... @ban hammer irony. Ultra right whinge dipshits banning themselves.
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