What's your preferred fuel?

[Moi]

I use benzina in the Italian one and gasolina in the Spanish one...

[Moi]

... Perhaps you can name a few bikes that actually run on diesel...

This one...

[STJim]

This issue has been discussed previously. See the link below.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...r-touring-bike

[caspernz]

Fill it up with whatever the manual recommends. As for brands, each has their own favourite and obscure reasons for it.

[pritch]

My Jap import car was designed to run on 100 octane but goes OK on 95. I don't see the point in driving half way across town to buy 98 when there is a Z station a couple of blocks away. The bike goes OK on 95 too.

I once read that riders are not able to detect any increase in power under about 10%. A higher octane rating is not going to give you over 10%, so any perceived increase in performance will likely be entirely in the mind.

On the other hand if buying 98 gives you warm fuzzies, go for it.

[rastuscat]

Just an amusing wee dit.

At the weekend one of the Booze Bus staff filled the bus with petrol.

It's not a petrol vehicle.

It's been seen being towed away for fixing.

DOH !!

[F5 Dave]

oooooo shit that's a can of worms mate! To be honest I've never had a good pie or cookie at a Gull station so I stick to Z and BP purely for food and opening hour options
I got bored of the mileage tracking needed to see what minuscule difference what makes 6 vehicles ago, now if it runs and is not noticeably worse, I'm happy.

Finally a sensible answer.

Pepper steak. Mmmm.

[Moi]

At the weekend one of the Booze Bus staff filled the bus with petrol...

Booze bus needs wodka...

[Old Steve]

I put the octane in that the manufacturer recommends, in all three of my bikes that's been 91.

In NZ I always use Caltex because of it's detergent additive (Techron?). Over here in Aus, Caltex don't additise their 91, so I've been using their additised 95. I'm looking forward to the better 91 octane fuel when I'm finally home next week, but am not looking forward to the prices, $1.32/L for ULP91 here in tropical QLD.

A detergent additive in the petrol keeps the injector pintle clean of deposits and produces a better spray out of the injector which means the fuel burns better, and keeps deposits off the back of the inlet valve which gives easier starting and smoother running when up to temperature. A detergent additive in the petrol also cleans a carburettor if you have one. You can get up to 4% better fuel economy, especially in a smaller engine.

By the way, the spec for NZ fuel is pretty good, it doesn't just specify octane (both RON and MON) but has specs for things like volatility which change over the seasons and trough the country, and aromatics content. Originally 98 was just ULP95 which came out of Marsden Pt with a RON of 98 - Marsden Point was MON limited, to meet the MON standard they had to give ROM away. So any ULP95 which came out of Marsden Pt as 98ROM/85MON went into special fuel terminal tanks and was sold as 98.

[ducatilover]

What sort on a numb nuts comment is that?

Perhaps you can name a few bikes that actually run on diesel.

BYW If you add the RUC'S and the difference in the Rego prices ( for example a ute ), to say nothing about routine maintenance, you have to do high k's to beat a petrol powered vehicle. Plenty written about that.

You're suggesting people pay RUCs?

[Reckless]

My SV1000 ran fine on 91 the Bonnie to. With the bike I stop anywhere but as its injected might start to use Caltex more often if Old Steve is correct

In the car I generally use Gull Because I have the shits with my local (up the road 50m) rip off BP shop.
$1:92 when in East Tamaki 5k away the prices are usually 10-12c plus cheaper?
Went out West Auckland last week stations where up to 14c cheaper.
Cant tell me it costs 12-14c per liter to deliver petrol out east, Fucken rip off bastards!!
So I've started supporting Gull or Pak n Save (with the grocery voucher discount) just because they are the only ones making the big guys keep their fuel prices down. If I do a big shop and get 20c discount off the already 10c a litre cheaper petrol I'll take my cans in and fill those for Road bike and MX bike refills.
My mate was just back from the USA yesterday and he said fuel per barrel is cheaper than its ever been?
Blatant price gouging it is?

I dont even know who's fuel Pak N Saves is LOL???

[Akzle]

My SV1000 ran fine on 91 the Bonnie to. With the bike I stop anywhere but as its injected might start to use Caltex more often if Old Steve is correct

In the car I generally use Gull Because I have the shits with my local (up the road 50m) rip off BP shop.
$1:92 when in East Tamaki 5k away the prices are usually 10-12c plus cheaper?
Went out West Auckland last week stations where up to 14c cheaper.
Cant tell me it costs 12-14c per liter to deliver petrol out east, Fucken rip off bastards!!
So I've started supporting Gull or Pak n Save (with the grocery voucher discount) just because they are the only ones making the big guys keep their fuel prices down. If I do a big shop and get 20c discount off the already 10c a litre cheaper petrol I'll take my cans in and fill those for Road bike and MX bike refills.
My mate was just back from the USA yesterday and he said fuel per barrel is cheaper than its ever been?
Blatant price gouging it is?

I dont even know who's fuel Pak N Saves is LOL???

hate/love to tell you. but whangarei is on average, 10-15c cheaper again.


also, if you're at shell on ti rakau? iririanga? some te fuken road, go around the corner to harris? rd for cheaper. cunts, there's less than 1km between them.

[pete376403]

This one...

And this one

[Moise]

The only decent petrol you can buy here is BP Ultimate, unless you live far enough south to get imported petrol.

Marsden Point can't make decent petrol, Gull add butane to their 91 to keep costs down, or ethanol to make 98.

And why does Ultimate cost 50% more here, even with dollar parity???

[Larksea]

I use 98 when I can, but you can't get it everywhere unfortunately.

have a mate who took his strimmer in to get a full service because he basically thrashes it and used it for hours each weekend doing stuff around the house.
when he picked it up the guy who did the service asked him why he bought it in because the engine looked basically new, the inside was completely clean and showed very little sign of wear.
When said mate explained how much he used it the service guy couldn't believe it. IT made no sense at all, the small engine guy who did the service had never seen anything like it.

Turns out he only ever uses 98 octane fuel with it. Which you would image is pretty rare for small engine gardening kit like that.

He seems to think its simply a better spec fuel, less impurities.

hard to know, lots of stories around and may people who have very logical and technical explanations for why there is no noticeable difference. In practice there does seem to be a difference but the human mind can play strange games on us.

Like that cake experiment

take two identical cakes and get people to taste test them, say one is a $20 budget cake and the other is a $100 gourmet cake made by a professional using better quality ingredients. people will almost always complain about the cheap cake and praise the expensive one even though they are actually identical.