My first poll for the NZ public

[Brian d marge]

that's just the mushies kicking in, dude...

Stand back from the red button

[mashman]

A Conscious Response = A Resource Based Economy

Props to Katman for finding it

"Doing the conscious and responsible thing is the duty of every living creature, not just “activists”, another term used pejoratively to keep people from doing the obvious."

[Akzle]

Stand back from the red button

that's MY red button...

[unstuck]

A Conscious Response = A Resource Based Economy

Props to Katman for finding it

"Doing the conscious and responsible thing is the duty of every living creature, not just “activists”, another term used pejoratively to keep people from doing the obvious."

Yep, it's an inside job.

[mashman]

Yep, it's an inside job.

Not, yet, for everyone.

[mashman]

The secret country again wages war on its own people

[Brian d marge]

You will see a lot of war ( galipoli ) news of late ,trying to soften ordinary folks view of war .... you will hear words like pride , service, cause ......

You WILL NEVER hear words like tricked.. fooled a waste of time ......what ever

Tis the retoric of the state , and them damn abbo's what with all their walkabouts and strange non western attributes are taking the brunt of dear old white van mans media

got to feel sorry for em


Stephen

[Grumph]

You will see a lot of war ( galipoli ) news of late ,trying to soften ordinary folks view of war .... you will hear words like pride , service, cause ......

You WILL NEVER hear words like tricked.. fooled a waste of time ......what ever

Tis the retoric of the state , and them damn abbo's what with all their walkabouts and strange non western attributes are taking the brunt of dear old white van mans media

got to feel sorry for em


Stephen

Surprisingly, TV3's coverage with Mike McRoberts on Gallipoli has mentioned Allied leaders incompetence more than once and has been very pointed as to just how much of a forlorn hope the whole thing was. Even the current head of the defence force went so far as to mourn lost opportunities and poor tactical thinking. But of course that channel is the leftist propaganda outlet....isn't it ?

[Brian d marge]

Surprisingly, TV3's coverage with Mike McRoberts on Gallipoli has mentioned Allied leaders incompetence more than once and has been very pointed as to just how much of a forlorn hope the whole thing was. Even the current head of the defence force went so far as to mourn lost opportunities and poor tactical thinking. But of course that channel is the leftist propaganda outlet....isn't it ?

Its was not much of military decision
But softening down of the whole affair
Almost a glorification
Makes it easier for people to accept the young men going to far of places today

Judt a thought I had as here in japan we dont have that kind of celebration
Well we do but it causes huge problems with china so they keep things very low key

[mashman]

UNPRECEDENTED ABUNDANCE

[Akzle]

UNPRECEDENTED ABUNDANCE

shhhhh! Dont tell ocean bro. Theres statistics at stake!

[Ocean1]

UNPRECEDENTED ABUNDANCE

How insane is it that we spend half of all of our tax dollars on the military?

Turns out to be around 3%: http: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

In fact there's hardly a coherent numeric fact in the "article".

But, y'know, whatever makes you feel your shortcomings are all someone else's fault is probably correct.

[bogan]

Turns out to be around 3%: http: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

In fact there's hardly a coherent numeric fact in the "article".

But, y'know, whatever makes you feel your shortcomings are all someone else's fault is probably correct.

Think it is up around the 12% mark when you consider it as portion of tax (for US), instead of portion of GDP. Still a fair way from 50% though, but, still way ahead of what is spent on NASA, cunts.

[Akzle]

Think it is up around the 12% mark when you consider it as portion of tax (for US), instead of portion of GDP. Still a fair way from 50% though, but, still way ahead of what is spent on NASA, cunts.

vote akzle.


((i have a keen interest in rocketry, particularly one-way trips to the sun...))

[Ocean1]

Think it is up around the 12% mark when you consider it as portion of tax (for US), instead of portion of GDP. Still a fair way from 50% though, but, still way ahead of what is spent on NASA, cunts.

I think it's more than that too, although I'm told it's decreasing. The point being of course that for them to be spending 50% of tax on bombs and shit they'd need to be taxing at 6%.

And, then, I guess there's worse things to spend taxpayers money on than a military wage packet, at least you're getting something for your money. In which regard, (speaking of which) beats the shit out of social welfare spending.... which is well more than their military spend.

Edit: Re NASA, I think it was Jerry Pournelle who said the budget required to fund the post-Apollo 11 moon landing project was less than the average family spent on coffee. And they couldn't manage it.