When is capital punishment ever justifiable?

**MisterD** · 29th April 2015, 10:07

Originally Posted by TheDemonLord

the possibility of them coming into contact with society again poses a risk so high that execution is preferred

A "Life, that really means life", sentence does that no? I certainly don't agree with this Life = 20 years, out in 15 with good behaviour, bollocks.

**p.dath** · 29th April 2015, 10:22

Originally Posted by MisterD

Never. Deliberately killing another human being is murder, whether you're a person or a country, and whether your justification is "I don't like them and I think I can get away with it", "they're bad, and the rules I invented say that's ok" or "God told me to".

So you are okay spending $1.5 million to keep someone away from the public so the public doesn't have to see them for 15 years?

**MisterD** · 29th April 2015, 10:25

Originally Posted by p.dath

So you are okay spending $1.5 million to keep someone away from the public so the public doesn't have to see them for 15 years?

It'll come out of all the money saved when I legalise Cannabis.

**willytheekid** · 29th April 2015, 10:27

Originally Posted by Katman

As a sideline to the topic (because I can't be arsed starting a new thread), I'm highly amused at Julie Bishop's claim that "there will be consequences".

Almost half a million West Papuans have be murdered by Indonesian occupying forces and there's not been a peep out of the Australian or New Zealand Governments.

Spineless fucks.

Not true!...we signed a trade deal with them

...and china

...and mexico

...and columbia

haaaang on a sec...

(And what do they all have in common?...with our govt!...yup, blatant, selfserving corruption!

)
..did we fuckin miss any other corrupt, communist countrys...like north Korea!

(Or are National working on that "trade deal" as well!)

...I was secretly hoping the Aussies would just storm the place and TAKE there citizens back...very very forcibly!

(Jus cos FUCK INDONESSIA!)

**Gadget1** · 29th April 2015, 10:30

Originally Posted by unstuck

To me, with the belief I hold, the only ones who are punished in an execution are the people left behind, like family, and other loved ones.
Why punish them for something they didn't do.

True, but the family of someone who is murdered are "punished" as well.

**Gadget1** · 29th April 2015, 10:31

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

https://www.facebook.com/22683870748...=1&pnref=story

It's sick alright.

**Gadget1** · 29th April 2015, 10:33

Originally Posted by p.dath

So you are okay spending $1.5 million to keep someone away from the public so the public doesn't have to see them for 15 years?

I'm certainly not okay with expenditure like that. I don't believe in prisons as such.

**R650R** · 29th April 2015, 10:38

Everything, right down to disorderly behaviour except of course speeding ;p And administered immediately by the victim as this eliminates any repeat offending. Just like in the wild west days....

Ever wonder why Japan has such a peaceful polite society??? Its because if you pissed off the local samurai they were 100% allowed to chop your head off and there was no such thing as murder in a case like that. Hence all the bowing and please and thank you stuff....

**EJK** · 29th April 2015, 10:52

Originally Posted by Katman

As a sideline to the topic (because I can't be arsed starting a new thread), I'm highly amused at Julie Bishop's claim that "there will be consequences".

Almost half a million West Papuans have be murdered by Indonesian occupying forces and there's not been a peep out of the Australian or New Zealand Governments.

Spineless fucks.

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

https://www.facebook.com/22683870748...=1&pnref=story

You already beat me to it.

**friday** · 29th April 2015, 11:06

-pedophiles should be shot , castrated at the very least
-killers shot unless its revenge , which can some times be justified
-rapers = shot
-drug dealers = shot (that includes a certain law firm that has profited from it since 1970s ,palmer)
-corrupt officials = shot
-born fraudsters = shot
-TREASON = public hanging , this law was dropped in the 1980s by labour before they privatised nz assets = legalised larceny
-human trafficers = shot
-chinese drug dealers = automatic loss of NZ "citizenship" and returned to china to face chinese law

Crime generates billions of dollars , either black market or for the legal system and prison industry . either way the money is legal currency that can be spent in NZ or exchanged for foreign .

if everyones kids become drug addicts , its all money in the bank for some one

**TheDemonLord** · 29th April 2015, 11:07

Originally Posted by Gadget1

I'm certainly not okay with expenditure like that. I don't believe in prisons as such.

What is the Alternative? Australia?

**Gadget1** · 29th April 2015, 11:26

Originally Posted by TheDemonLord

What is the Alternative? Australia?

Heh, that didn't go so well. They became a nation...

The complete solution hasn't been brought in yet but it's getting there from what I've been reading and told: Working on juveniles with criminal tendencies, restorative justice etc.

All done before prision is involved.