Licence label parking ticket?

[FJRider]

I'll dig the rule for the WoF out when I'm back at work Friday.

Sitting my I endorsement theory and practical tomorrow. Nervous, for no reason.

From memory ...

: Person operated a private vehicle on a road when the vehicle was not displaying current evidence of vehicle inspection.
: s.34(1)(b) Land Transport Act 1998.
: $200 – Schedule 1 Land Transport (Offences and Penalties) Regulations 1999.

[FJRider]

should we move this to the death penalty thread?

been burgled 3 times, i am over being lenient

3 strikes and your gone burger

1: You are a licensed firearms owner.

2: A burgler enters your house.

3: You fire a warning shot out the window (Don't ruin a good ceiling)

4: Burgler ignores you.

5: Concerned for the safetey of your family ... You fire a shot through his head.


If actual order of 3: and 5: cannot be proved ...

[rastuscat]

From memory ...

: Person operated a private vehicle on a road when the vehicle was not displaying current evidence of vehicle inspection.
: s.34(1)(b) Land Transport Act 1998.
: $200 – Schedule 1 Land Transport (Offences and Penalties) Regulations 1999.

I was going to chase it today but the can't be arsed fairy waved her wand at me.

Here's, however, what I managed to find while surfing at home.

Land Transport Rule: Vehicle Standards Compliance 2002

9.3(4) A warrant of fitness, certificate of fitness and alternative fuel inspection certificate must be affixed:
(a) if a vehicle has a windscreen, to the inside of the windscreen facing outwards, on the same side as the steering
wheel;
(b) for a trailer, on the back of the vehicle near the registration plate, or on the right-hand side of the vehicle at the rear,
or, if this is impracticable, in a position where it can be readily seen;
(c) for any other vehicle, in a position where it can be readily seen.

This suggests that a WoF for a motorcycle has to be displayed where it can be readily seen, but without specifying exactly where.

So display it where it's clearly visible, and they can't write the ticket.

Unlike a licence label, where the rule says both that it must be displayed, and sets out how it must be displayed.

Land Transport (Motor Vehicle Registration and Licensing) Regulations 2011

16 Display of licences
(1)
The licence for a motor vehicle must be displayed as set out in this regulation.
(2)
In the case of a motorcycle, moped, or trailer, the licence must be affixed to the motorcycle, moped, or trailer immediately below or as close as practicable to the registration plate.

Citizens, if I can find this stuff online, sitting at home on my home computer using my own limited interwebness, surely anyone can.

For heavens sake, if you have a question of law, how about you go and actually read it.

[Daffyd]

1: You are a licensed firearms owner.

2: A burglar enters your house.

3: You fire a warning shot out the window (Don't ruin a good ceiling)

4: Burglar ignores you.

5: Concerned for the safety of your family ... You fire a shot through his head.


If actual order of 3: and 5: cannot be proved ...

Over here you don't even need to fire a warning shot. Someone uninvited comes on to your property, you can blow their head off, (if you're a licensed gun owner.) Unfortunately, being a foreigner, I'm not allowed to own a gun so I have amassed a growing collection of "classic" swords and daggers.

[Owl]

3 strikes and your gone burgler

There, fixed that for you.

[eldog]

1: You are a licensed firearms owner.

2: A burgler enters your house.

3: You fire a warning shot out the window (Don't ruin a good ceiling)

4: Burgler ignores you.

5: Concerned for the safetey of your family ... You fire a shot through his head.


If actual order of 3: and 5: cannot be proved ...

One problem, I am usually working long hours to pay for the benefits others get (often the burglers-free board, food, rest, 'in house training from other inmates on how to expand their capabilities and what to avoid next time' all paid.)
Yeah some get rehabilitated. but I guess most reoffend

But I consider lots of NZ communities have nothing to offer 'work or otherwise' Drove through Casltecliff in Wanganui the other month - bloody depressing. People nothing to do.

Rant over back to work.


OWL - nice 'fix'

[Big Dog]

Over here you don't even need to fire a warning shot. Someone uninvited comes on to your property, you can blow their head off, (if you're a licensed gun owner.) Unfortunately, being a foreigner, I'm not allowed to own a gun so I have amassed a growing collection of "classic" swords and daggers.

That is awfully civilised and sporting making sure you have enough for them also?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[GrayWolf]

Unless a complaint is made (for DANGEROUS PARKING)... parking tickets are a low police priority.


I'd much rather see them chasing Motorcyclists ..burglers, rapists, and thieves ( always in that order of priority)

there fixed it for Ya

[Jantar]

...
The notice was issued under the following regulation.


: Person operated a motor vehicle on a road when the current licence issued to the vehicle and appropriate for its use was not affixed to it in the manner prescribed.

: Land Transport (Motor Vehicle Registration & Licensing) Regulations 2011: Regulation 77(2)(b)(ii).

: $200 - Schedule 6 Land Transport (Motor Vehicle Registration & Licensing) Regulations 2011.


....

If that is the case then OP will certainly be not guilty should he decide to defend it. His photo shows the that the licence lable was indeed affixed in the manner prescibed.

If the ticket is for having an obscured licence lable, referred to by RC, then that is another matter. It was correctly affixed, just obscured.

[FJRider]

If that is the case then OP will certainly be not guilty should he decide to defend it. His photo shows the that the licence lable was indeed affixed in the manner prescibed.

If the ticket is for having an obscured licence lable, referred to by RC, then that is another matter. It was correctly affixed, just obscured.

91 Evidence of registration and licensing

Maybe ..

(1)

The fact that a motor vehicle is operated without having registration plates affixed to and displayed on it in accordance with these regulations is, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, sufficient evidence that the motor vehicle is not registered in accordance with Part 17 of the Act.

(2)

The fact that a motor vehicle is operated without having a valid licence affixed to and displayed on it in accordance with these regulations is, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, sufficient evidence that the motor vehicle is not licensed in accordance with Part 17 of the Act.

(3)

For the purposes of this regulation, valid licence means a current licence or a licence issued for the motor vehicle that is to come into force within the next month.

[Icemaestro]

I've had two tickets - once fixed as you do - sent in a photo as it is saying that it was fixed in clear view and next to my number plate quoting the legislation "In the case of a motorcycle, moped, or trailer, the licence must be affixed to the motorcycle, moped, or trailer immediately below or as close as practicable to the registration plate." and they sent me a letter saying they would waive the fine and don't do it again (what I shouldn't do, I don't know) second time I had/have it affixed to the back of the numberplate (tidies it up a bit:-P) so you can read rego and WOF from behind the plate, and again, sent in a photo and they waived it and sent the same letter.

End of the day I'm going to say lazy/stupid parking officer? law just says it needs to be as close as possible OR below the plate :-)

oh and just when you take a photo, the other bit says "In every case, the licence must be displayed in an upright, easily visible position." so make sure it is upright, and can be read easily - ie can you read the thing then you pull it out? the way you have it usually the WOF is at the front and rego on the other side facing towards the front of the bike so nothing is obscured.

[Swoop]

Need to keep an eye out for the dodgy practices of the parking wardens too. This is why you cannot safely attach a paper parking ticket that you purchase from a "pay & display" ticket machine.

[pritch]

3: You fire a warning shot out the window (Don't ruin a good ceiling)

That seems a bit dangerous. I always recommended a warning shot through the floor, that way you don't end up with a leaky roof.

[Scuba_Steve]

I would still like someone to explain how a vehicle, off, with no-one in/on it can be accused of "operating"
Sure it may have been operated at one point to get it there (tho could have also been towed, trailered, helicoptered, teleported) but at that particular time there is no possible way it was "operated" unless a) the accuser did so, or b) it's one of those fancy self drive vehicles

[BMWST?]

I would still like someone to explain how a vehicle, off, with no-one in/on it can be accused of "operating"
Sure it may have been operated at one point to get it there (tho could have also been towed, trailered, helicoptered, teleported) but at that particular time there is no possible way it was "operated" unless a) the accuser did so, or b) it's one of those fancy self drive vehicles

if a vehicle is parked in a parking space it is a fair assumption that it was "operated" to get there is it not?If it was conveyed there in some sort of manner which is not normal "operation" then i guess it is up to the "operator" to convey that information to TPTB.