Black boxes on bikes?

[GrayWolf]

I have a black box on my private bike.

I keep my gloves in it when I'm not riding.

Just sayin.

Sorry team, I'm becoming more and more frivolous as my big day becons.

so you have a 'black box' you keep your private bits in??? does Mrs Rastus know of this? Just askin

[pritch]

Yes American cops don't like being filmed, which makes it even more bizarre in that shooting case that they didn't engage in witness intimidation/phone smashing. I mean how does one cold bloodily shoot an unarmed offender in the back then not try and destroy the evidence that will lock them up or death penalty....

We can't know, but I don't think that cop realised it was all being recorded. It would be a bit pointless planting eveidence to support his bullshit story if he knew that he was being filmed.

In two other recent cases the people who filmed the cops killing someone have subsequently been busted for drug posession, whether they had drugs or not, and they are now locked up.

[Flip]

You have access. When Plod turns up and tells you to hand over the records/access forthwith (that's plod speak for do it right now bitch or they'll be trouble) you will do it or be charged with obstruction/withholding evidence etc...
No different to seizing emails/text messages that may be on foreign servers also.

I don't know what planet you live on but the rozza here have no such powers. If they even tried it here the evedence would not be able to be used in court.

[yevjenko]

Be afraid, be very afraid.

For the next three weeks anyway.

Counting down the days are we?

What happens for you after you leave?

[yevjenko]

You have access. When Plod turns up and tells you to hand over the records/access forthwith (that's plod speak for do it right now bitch or they'll be trouble) you will do it or be charged with obstruction/withholding evidence etc...
No different to seizing emails/text messages that may be on foreign servers also.

Err no. You do not have to hand over any data of your own.

Also note that gps it's not legally binding in a court of law - this works both ways, you can not prove your innocence with your own gps recordings and they cannot seize your gps and use it against you

[ellipsis]

...I have a black box on my Wing...big spiders live in it along with some very dry pine needles...it has a vinyl push button cover...it's quite scary...

[R650R]

I don't know what planet you live on but the rozza here have no such powers. If they even tried it here the evedence would not be able to be used in court.

I live on the planet where it has happened and they do have the powers.
I sat in the court room listening as the cop explained how he obtained the evidence, as the manager of the company also testified how the data was turned over to police.
The judge and the defence team had absolutely no problem with how the evidence was obtained.
In the end the case failed over a minor technical error that the police are unlikely to make again. The lawyer was a very high calibre well respected one too.
My colleague who I was there to support was lucky that although there was a stack of charges there was no injury/accident involved so the cops had been little slack on their homework.

[R650R]

Err no. You do not have to hand over any data of your own.

Also note that gps it's not legally binding in a court of law - this works both ways, you can not prove your innocence with your own gps recordings and they cannot seize your gps and use it against you

GPS data on speed is fully accepted as respectable evidence in NZ court for speed. This was stated by the judge in above mentioned case and has been accepted in various serious accident cases.
In regards of location and time no precedents have been set but a current major trial in Akld may change/correct that.

[eldog]

GPS data on speed is fully accepted as respectable evidence in NZ court for speed. This was stated by the judge in above mentioned case and has been accepted in various serious accident cases.
In regards of location and time no precedents have been set but a current major trial in Akld may change/correct that.

surprised this hasnt come up before, use of cell phone tower addresses to track phone and average rate of speed would have to be going a fair distance.

Just as well the Scorpio can just do 100.

[rastuscat]

Counting down the days are we?

What happens for you after you leave?

I endorsement and a job as a motorcycle instructor.

I'm thinking of getting a camera to provide feedback to punters but is all this Go Pro BS getting out of hand? So many of us seem to be videoing stuff for some purpose then grizzling when it drops us in the shit.

[pritch]

surprised this hasnt come up before, use of cell phone tower addresses to track phone and average rate of speed would have to be going a fair distance.

Yet another compelling reason to travel with the cell phone switched off.

[Flip]

I live on the planet where it has happened and they do have the powers.
I sat in the court room listening as the cop explained how he obtained the evidence, as the manager of the company also testified how the data was turned over to police.
The judge and the defence team had absolutely no problem with how the evidence was obtained.
In the end the case failed over a minor technical error that the police are unlikely to make again. The lawyer was a very high calibre well respected one too.
My colleague who I was there to support was lucky that although there was a stack of charges there was no injury/accident involved so the cops had been little slack on their homework.

Nice bunch of cunts you work for.

What was he charge with? I take it was some thing criminal.

[baffa]

I live on the planet where it has happened and they do have the powers.
I sat in the court room listening as the cop explained how he obtained the evidence, as the manager of the company also testified how the data was turned over to police.
The judge and the defence team had absolutely no problem with how the evidence was obtained.
In the end the case failed over a minor technical error that the police are unlikely to make again. The lawyer was a very high calibre well respected one too.
My colleague who I was there to support was lucky that although there was a stack of charges there was no injury/accident involved so the cops had been little slack on their homework.

Whilst you are right (spoke with someone in the know), and there is nothing to stop the police issuing an order demanding the data be released, it is a phone app. It doesn't monitor the driver, amongst many other factors, so it's far from condeming.

It's all rather acedemic for bikes anyway, the whole point is monitoring how smoothly you accellerate and decellerate etc. Even an asthmatic 250 typically accellerates at speeds the app would consider excessive, and therefore mark you down on.

[FJRider]

GPS data on speed is fully accepted as respectable evidence in NZ court for speed. This was stated by the judge in above mentioned case and has been accepted in various serious accident cases.
In regards of location and time no precedents have been set but a current major trial in Akld may change/correct that.

GPS logs have been common on many vehicles in varied transport industry.

GPS is often/usually installed in the vehicles to provide accurate knowledge of that vehicles location to predict arrival/delivery times. The "Other" information delivered ... is that firms downside ..

The confiscation of the data they provide ... has often been made by police. Nothing new there ...

[R650R]

Nothing new here

And your point was????????????????????????????????????????? Don't worry its a rhetorical questions.....................