Yet another ATGATT thread

[Gadget1]

Agreed. I didn't mean to imply that RC is harming motorcyclists. Just that he is perhaps applying a double standard if he would not do the same to a cyclist.

No problem. There's no ATGATT Police so he wouldn't have a case for lecturing a cyclist although I can why he does these things.

[pritch]

The problem I have with cycling is that you're at the mercy of the traffic. I'm just not cut out to put my life in the hands of 10,000 strangers every time I ride.

Yeah, when I'm out on the push bike for exercise I tend to use the walkway as much as possible. I normally only use the streets to get to the walkway.

Last summer I was noticing a significant proportion of adult cyclists riding on the walkway with their helmet hanging off the handlebar. To my mind that's fucking stupid. Not that I would make so bold as to mention this, it's their right to be as stupid as they like as long as it doesn't risk harm to anybody else.

It all ended in tears - and letters to the editor. The Police had a blitz and started dishing out tickets, the walkway is classified as a road (as is the beach). A number of our less intellectually gifted citizens learned something. Please pardon my Schadenfreude.

[Grubber]

Yes it would be.

They'd be told to mind their own fucking business.

Good attitude. Does this apply to someone showing you how to ride your bike or do you just bolt on ahead and tell them to get fucked anyway.

You should be a teacher!

[Katman]

Good attitude. Does this apply to someone showing you how to ride your bike or do you just bolt on ahead and tell them to get fucked anyway.

I don't need someone to show me how to ride my bike. Thanks anyway.

[Grubber]

If the amount of effort that's put into pushing the ATGATT barrow was put into trying to change the attitude that seems to suggest it's perfectly acceptable for motorcyclists to live out their Rossi fantasies on public roads, we might actually get somewhere.

There is far more to be gained by encouraging motorcyclists to open their eyes and switch on their brains than worrying about what they're wearing.

So if they pulled you up to lecture you on how to ride????
Would you tell them to fuck off and mind their own business??

[Grubber]

I don't need someone to show me how to ride my bike. Thanks anyway.

Your opinion but not theirs perhaps.....stil gonna tell them to fuck off obviously!

[Katman]

So if they pulled you up to lecture you on how to ride????
Would you tell them to fuck off and mind their own business??

I don't need someone to lecture me on how to ride either.

[Grubber]

I don't need someone to lecture me on how to ride either.

You must be next thing to perfect then!
Well done!

[Katman]

You must be next thing to perfect then!
Well done!

Thanks, you're too kind.

[Tazz]

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"

On that exact note there is a lot more going on in the world, particularly law enforcement, that would benefit from more energy than crying like a school girl about a cop handing out sound advice in an informative manner that you can flatly ignore if you so wish.

[swbarnett]

On that exact note there is a lot more going on in the world, particularly law enforcement, that would benefit from more energy than crying like a school girl about a cop handing out sound advice in an informative manner that you can flatly ignore if you so wish.

Agreed. But it is a sign of the problem - too many people (particularly safety zealots) harping on about how no-one's allowed to get hurt.

The sort of advice RC handed out, while I would imagine it to be good advice, should be reserved for the "while you're here" type of situation.

[Grubber]

Thanks, you're too kind.

I did say "next thing to" not actual...
sorry to blow ya bubble!

[eldog]

It was the late '90s when I was there. At the time it was only 5fr from memory (roughly 1-1 to the NZD at the time). This gave you $2M liability cover. Health insurance is compulsory so that didn't factor into the rego.

Effectively not at all. Switzerland is a very honest country. In the two years I was there I saw maybe two cop cars on the road.

shows you the difference between cultures. thanks

[eldog]

Yes. To wear enough to make a difference would put me in danger of heat exhaustion.
No. Not so much because of the risk to me. I stopped cycling because of who I became. One too many near misses and I got very angry. I started mouthing off at anyone and everyone. Even had a run in with a school principle on crossing patrol (for something that was of no consequence at all). That was the last day I cycled.

The problem I have with cycling is that you're at the mercy of the traffic. I'm just not cut out to put my life in the hands of 10,000 strangers every time I ride.

heat exhaustion does sneak up on you a bit like fatigue.

I did something similar in another sport, I was breaking stuff left right and centre. Mostly frustrated with myselfs ability to cope (I knew I was way better than that) I just wasnt enjoying myself like I used to, so eventually I gave up, even after other team mates begging me not to.

I understand completely.

[Tazz]

If the amount of effort that's put into pushing the ATGATT barrow was put into trying to change the attitude that seems to suggest it's perfectly acceptable for motorcyclists to live out their Rossi fantasies on public roads, we might actually get somewhere.

There is far more to be gained by encouraging motorcyclists to open their eyes and switch on their brains than worrying about what they're wearing.

I don't need someone to lecture me on how to ride either.