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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    I hope you bought the billet block as well?





    One of the Australian classic sidecars uses one and 74mm XR250 pistons
    Only the British sidecars are allowed billet barrels, otherwise it's cheating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Only the British sidecars are allowed billet barrels, otherwise it's cheating.
    Bit of bead blasting and they'll never know, how'd that guy with the Matchless sidecar make his?
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Zevon
    Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    I heard you could use a 900f crank in them, is that not true?
    Going on what the guy in Oz runs with CB900 crank and the XR250 74mm piston he's 1187cc and the baby motor with the same crank and 70mm piston is 1062cc
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
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    Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Only the British sidecars are allowed billet barrels, otherwise it's cheating.
    Still 1300cc limit last time I looked. Billet barrel or not the "British" Matchy was still 799cc last time I measured it...well it was when I made it anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    I heard you could use a 900f crank in them, is that not true?
    It may be, but it wouldn't be easy as the single cammer uses two roller chains side by side for the primary plus a roller chain for the cam drive. The twin cam 900 uses a wide hyvo chain for the primary and another hyvo for the cam...I'd think there may be clearance issues too.
    Are we comparing apples with apples ? Is the Aussie one Kick's quoting a single or twin cam motor ? I thought noddy had found a single cammer ? You would not use XL/XR250 pistons in a single cam motor either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Is the Aussie one Kick's quoting a single or twin cam motor ? I thought noddy had found a single cammer ? You would not use XL/XR250 pistons in a single cam motor either...
    It's in a SOHC discussion and he has pics of a SOHC motor, although it appears it runs a aftermarket home made barrel
    It's in here http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,53817.0.html
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Zevon
    Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    It may be, but it wouldn't be easy as the single cammer uses two roller chains side by side for the primary plus a roller chain for the cam drive. The twin cam 900 uses a wide hyvo chain for the primary and another hyvo for the cam...I'd think there may be clearance issues too.
    Are we comparing apples with apples ? Is the Aussie one Kick's quoting a single or twin cam motor ? I thought noddy had found a single cammer ? You would not use XL/XR250 pistons in a single cam motor either...
    When Graeme Cole and I went to Eastern Creek in 2000 with the Matchy, the fastest of the single cam Postie chairs supposedly had 900 cranks in them, or so we were told. Anything is possible if you really want to push the boundaries I guess

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    http://www.satanicmechanic.org/bigbore.shtml

    CB 900 F DOHC crank

    For the ultimate power hungry: The Honda Bol d'Or / CB 900 F DOHC crank can made fit into the CB 750 case to deliver 69mm stroke (63mm stock). Combined with stock or big bore:
    Bore (mm) Displacement (cc)
    61.00 807
    65.00 888
    67.00 973
    67.50 1002
    70.00 1062
    73.00 1171

    Bearings fit, so much for the good news. Rotor and ignition are swapped on the Bol d'Or crank, so you'd best swap them, too. (Need to put an oil seal on the left side). For racing, you may leave out the rotor and use a total loss ignition or a magneto. Primary chain is a Hy-Vo chain now, which is good as you would need a stronger primary train anyway. A drive sprocket from a Gold Wing can be fitted on the stock primary wheel. Need to take care of a chain tensioner. Cam chain also is Hy-Vo, probably machine a Bol d'Or or late CB 250/450 N cam sprocket to fit the SOHC/4 cam. Longer stroke means either shorter rods or a spacer under the cylinder foot, which is what most people do. Find a cam chain that fits, build a chain tensioner, and you're done. :-) Well, almost...

    Bit here about it as well
    http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,32541.25.html
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Zevon
    Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan

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    Fucksakes stop giving away all my secrets.

    now I just need to find a dole bludger in wanganui that was doing that in his garden shed in 1970 and it will be eligible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    Fucksakes stop giving away all my secrets.

    now I just need to find a dole bludger in wanganui that was doing that in his garden shed in 1970 and it will be eligible.
    First Gen CB900F didn't come out until 1979 so you're fucked
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Zevon
    Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    Fucksakes stop giving away all my secrets.

    now I just need to find a dole bludger in wanganui that was doing that in his garden shed in 1970 and it will be eligible.
    This guy in Wangy had one.... true...
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    Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    First Gen CB900F didn't come out until 1979 so you're fucked
    ill just weld 2 450's together

    Quote Originally Posted by scrivy View Post
    This guy in Wangy had one.... true...
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    is that rat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    is that rat?
    Close.... he went jet ski racing too....
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    Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    Fucksakes stop giving away all my secrets.

    now I just need to find a dole bludger in wanganui that was doing that in his garden shed in 1970 and it will be eligible.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    First Gen CB900F didn't come out until 1979 so you're fucked
    If it is in single cammer cases and still uses the correct barrel - even with a spacer - you're fine. Internals are relatively free, eh Nev.....

    I'd never have though it was worth doing all that shit to a single cammer but what do i know....Some people must just go looking for ways to spend money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    If it is in single cammer cases and still uses the correct barrel - even with a spacer - you're fine. Internals are relatively free, eh Nev.....

    I'd never have though it was worth doing all that shit to a single cammer but what do i know....Some people must just go looking for ways to spend money.
    Still looks stock on the outside...Hey I didn't make the rules (or break them), I just took them to their limit

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