My first poll for the NZ public

[Gadget1]

I typed as slow as i could and its not my fault you havent read


2 of the most famous books in the english language

Yeah so bogan's wrong as well then.

[mashman]

Try fucking explaining yourself better!

He does fine... the deficiency is yours.

[Katman]

Yeah so bogan's wrong as well then.

Why should that surprise you?

[Brian d marge]

Yeah possibly so bogan. He probably thinks he's clever doing it that way.

No i just assumed incorrectly

A truly clever person would have asked a question

Or am I assuming again

As for

Wellington airport , , . .

Why . . .oh why . . Would I be talking about a windmill in wellington airport which isnt even called airport 1

It may have a landing strip called landing strip 1
Which may unusually may have a windmill . . . Bit dangerous i would assume

Sharp 7 will be on soon

[bogan]

No i just assumed incorrectly

A truly clever person would have asked a question

Or am I assuming again

As for

Wellington airport , , . .

Why . . .oh why . . Would I be talking about a windmill in wellington airport which isnt even called airport 1

It may have a landing strip called landing strip 1
Which may unusually may have a windmill . . . Bit dangerous i would assume

Sharp 7 will be on soon

He has asked the question. Do you plan on answering it?

I think a truly clever person would use the english language to most efficiently convey the information that the desire to convey.

Or to ask another question, what purpose does ambiguity serve?

[mashman]

What I mean is we both understand why you think as you do; unless you were being untruthful or have otherwise changed your mind.

Not by the common definition, as there was no coercion.

Only if you continue to think in a financial sense. In a moneyless utopia there is no way to value one's work output, no way to measure how one's needs/wants stack up against it. So the term bludger is simply not applicable.

We will have arrived at a similar answer through vastly different thought processes, of that I am sure.

So, the alternative being deprived of what the world has to offer by a bank isn't blackmail?

True. Of course you can measure the value of one's work and output . Longevity, quality, application, looks etc... I know eh, people will have to show some form of social responsibility. The libertarians and right wing will be pissed.

[Brian d marge]

This may be what zedder and others have trouble with; you've left out the most important part, which is that the same apples come back after only (?) being washed and waxed; without mentioning that point it is just exports. And you didn't back up the and back bit other than showing that other people say the same thing you did.

I did.

The backing it up part I did

Twice

Now im not in a position tocheck the original post as im using the phone to send hence the capitalizationand lower cases etc
Its a pain to type on

So yes Mr b youmay will be right but as I pointed out in another post later on

If im not sure . .then i will usually . . Of line email a question to clarify .

Its a good trick this . . .airport 1

Copy paste google

Omg so thats what he meant . . .

Hes being a smart arse

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[bogan]

We will have arrived at a similar answer through vastly different thought processes, of that I am sure.

So, the alternative being deprived of what the world has to offer by a bank isn't blackmail?

True. Of course you can measure the value of one's work and output . Longevity, quality, application, looks etc... I know eh, people will have to show some form of social responsibility. The libertarians and right wing will be pissed.

Depends on what you mean by answer, I don't think your answer of a moneyless system is any good. But I do understand what that answer entails, and how you have come to it.

No, that's just trading. I don't believe there was any mention of the 'bankers' blockading the island to prevent other trade routes?

Those are judgment values, they are not universally comparable. There is no way to say that the work a gardener does equates to the production of say, a TV.

They will have to show social responsibility for it to work, if they don't then it simply does not work; in such a system not working is both an option for any individual, and the system as a whole. Lets not overlook just how open to abuse that is as well; those who wish it to fail can literally just take an all expenses paid holiday to achieve that goal.

[bogan]

The backing it up part I did

Twice

Now im not in a position tocheck the original post as im using the phone to send hence the capitalizationand lower cases etc
Its a pain to type on

So yes Mr b youmay will be right but as I pointed out in another post later on

If im not sure . .then i will usually . . Of line email a question to clarify .

Its a good trick this . . .airport 1

Copy paste google

Omg so thats what he meant . . .

Hes being a smart arse

Kb reply button

Insert appropriate reply

Send

No, you found other's who said the same thing you did. You have not posted where that original information came from. That is the important bit, the facts behind a story, not how often the story is told. Snopes for example, is full of stories which have been told time and time again, to the point they are regarded as common knowledge, but are factually inaccurate.

Is it "airport 1" or "airstrip one" I get heathrow and nations of 1984 respectively when googling them.

You may have thought you were being a smart arse by posting a witty ambiguity, but it serves no practical purpose, especially if it is too obscure to be obvious. I'd have to say gadget is right on this one, your english needs a lot of work.

[Brian d marge]

I did.

I did miss it sorry
So you are decentralizing the voting what about the government
Keep them the same?

The production side is what we have been saying all along

But you havent addressed the money

Mashie reckons it can work without money
I can see his point but cannot see it working in this day and age . . .possibly on a community level maybe

I feel that a non debt based money is more workable in a decentralized structure

The current. . lets build a windmill utopia . . . we are following now will just end in tears

Maybe I should buy a diary . ,bit of a risk I know . . .but


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[Brian d marge]

No, you found other's who said the same thing you did. You have not posted where that original information came from. That is the important bit, the facts behind a story, not how often the story is told. Snopes for example, is full of stories which have been told time and time again, to the point they are regarded as common knowledge, but are factually inaccurate.

Is it "airport 1" or "airstrip one" I get heathrow and nations of 1984 respectively when googling them.

You may have thought you were being a smart arse by posting a witty ambiguity, but it serves no practical purpose, especially if it is too obscure to be obvious. I'd have to say gadget is right on this one, your english needs a lot of work.

Which one doyou suppose i would be refering to

No you need to use what god gave you

Sharp 7 should be starting now

[bogan]

I did miss it sorry
So you are decentralizing the voting what about the government
Keep them the same?

The production side is what we have been saying all along

But you havent addressed the money

Mashie reckons it can work without money
I can see his point but cannot see it working in this day and age . . .possibly on a community level maybe

I feel that a non debt based money is more workable in a decentralized structure

The current. . lets build a windmill utopia . . . we are following now will just end in tears

Maybe I should buy a diary . ,bit of a risk I know . . .but


Signed

The old Major

No it is still a central govt, just one that allows input from all voters on all votable issues.

Yes keep the same govt.

I have no argument with the production side of what has been said all along. Money is not something I believe needs addressing, we will simply leave it behind when all are wealthy enough to just say, nah don't worry about paying for that, I got you covered.

Non debt based money is something that would be fairly central to any such emergent community anyway.

I have no idea of what you mean by windmill utopia or why buying a diary is relevant.

Which one doyou suppose i would be refering to

No you need to use what god gave you

Sharp 7 should be starting now

I don't know, which one is it?

I do not believe that god gave me anything so am unsure what I should be using, and what I should be using it for.

I fail to see the relevance of 7 sharp.

You still have not addressed why the repetition of a story is valid reason to believe it.

[mashman]

Depends on what you mean by answer, I don't think your answer of a moneyless system is any good. But I do understand what that answer entails, and how you have come to it.

No, that's just trading. I don't believe there was any mention of the 'bankers' blockading the island to prevent other trade routes?

Those are judgment values, they are not universally comparable. There is no way to say that the work a gardener does equates to the production of say, a TV.

They will have to show social responsibility for it to work, if they don't then it simply does not work; in such a system not working is both an option for any individual, and the system as a whole. Lets not overlook just how open to abuse that is as well; those who wish it to fail can literally just take an all expenses paid holiday to achieve that goal.

You have mentioned it before. What does it entail and how have I come to it?

No, it's blackmail. Banks are banks.

They are comparable because I say so. Just like someone says that govt bonds have value. If you need a gardener and/or a tv, if one is available, then there is no problem, otherwise, order one. Yes it the system is open to abuse. No worries on the financial front, because we can just print more money, or at the very least revalue the price of hammers... and quite possibly throw the fucker in jail for economic terrorism on his return... or cancel his credit card... or or or or or or or whatever the socially responsible thing to about it is. So many answers.

[bogan]

You have mentioned it before. What does it entail and how have I come to it?

No, it's blackmail. Banks are banks.

They are comparable because I say so. Just like someone says that govt bonds have value. If you need a gardener and/or a tv, if one is available, then there is no problem, otherwise, order one. Yes it the system is open to abuse. No worries on the financial front, because we can just print more money, or at the very least revalue the price of hammers... and quite possibly throw the fucker in jail for economic terrorism on his return... or cancel his credit card... or or or or or or or whatever the socially responsible thing to about it is. So many answers.

It entails the removal of money, and dispersal of good/services to citizens as they determine their needs to be. The citizens also determine whether and how assets are claimed from individuals who are not using them.

It is not blackmail because there is no coercion, banks offered the service, and the people chose to take it. They were free to refuse it.

Yet the comparison you would make, is not one I would share, or others of society would share; I'd be adamant my efforts were equal to my acquisitions. Who are you to tell me different?

To do what with? Printed currency has no value in a moneyless society, the value of hammers is irrelevant when citizens can take them at will. How will you determine who is an economic terrorist and who is just having a holiday? Why would canceling a credit card do anything when the society does not use money anyway? (I'm talking about a holiday within NZ here).

[Brian d marge]

No it is still a central govt, just one that allows input from all voters on all votable issues.

Yes keep the same govt.

（So how do you a. Keep corruption out .etc . .influences from outside sources with views harmful to our society)

I have no argument with the production side of what has been said all along. Money is not something I believe needs addressing, we will simply leave it behind when all are wealthy enough to just say, nah don't worry about paying for that, I got you covered.

Non debt based money is something that would be fairly central to any such emergent community anyway.

(Agreed but see my first comment )

I have no idea of what you mean by windmill utopia or why buying a diary is relevant.
( that was me doing that deliberatly to get u to exercise that grey matter)



I don't know, which one is it?

I do not believe that god gave me anything so am unsure what I should be using, and what I should be using it for.

I fail to see the relevance of 7 sharp.

You still have not addressed why the repetition of a story is valid reason to believe it.

Sorry my comments are in brackets . . Phone . multi quote . . .yeah right

Isis is a bad muslim terrorist group . .
So in this case you are right
How ever
Refeering to the apples the damn things are on the plane . . . . That is the truth . . Unless they are not apples and its a cia plot .
.which would be more entertaining