Just to piss Maha off......

[husaberg]

Your reading skills seem as poor as husaberg's.

Where did I say it was 'okay' for Iraq to invade Kuwait.

Kuwait were producing more oil than the prevailing quota allowed - in a deliberate attempt to hurt Iraq through lower oil prices.

Everyone else was as well............lol

[TheDemonLord]

You can't be holding the katamarangtang to logic
Your are wasting your time, he will just say I never suggested that it was then attempt to change the subject.
Then he will start the red repping..........

I've already got enough Red Rep from him

As an FYI Katman - Neg repping someone just because you disagree with their opinion in a debate is very Poor Form.

[PrincessBandit]

Hmmmmm, so what I'm reading from most of this seems to come down to "as long as [insert any foreign nation]'s laws and practices don't impact on my country leave them to sort their own problems out".

I don't believe in any country's right to invade and/or impose their will on another but the sad reality of life for humanity is that there are those who take/control/subjugate/terrorise/annihilate etc simply "because they can". Mostly it is done out of some variation on the 'greed' concept.

This then presents us with a challenge. Do we look away and say "not our problem, sort it out yourselves"; do we ignore pleas from those who look to us for protection when they can't get it from their own leaders; do we give the requested help conditionally (based on what we feel we can work to our own advantage out of the situation) or do we assist knowing that whatever we do it's going to be manipulated by some other party or agenda but morally we feel obliged to do it anyway?

Nothing like being able to lay the blame of your own population's misery and desperation at the feet of other nations trying to assist. Must be every dictator and despots dream.

[Katman]

Everyone else was as well............

Now you're just making yourself look silly.

Like I said, I've never claimed that Iraq's invasion of Kuwait was legally justified.

I've simply pointed out some of the possible reasons why it happened.

Let's not forget that Kuwait is seem by many as the 19th province of Iraq.

[Katman]

And meanwhile, the Zionists sit back and smile knowingly.

[husaberg]

Now you're just making yourself look silly.

Like I said, I've never claimed that Iraq's invasion of Kuwait was legally justified.

I've simply pointed out some of the possible reasons why it happened.

Let's not forget that Kuwait is seem by many as the 19th province of Iraq.

Too funny for words

And meanwhile, the Zionists sit back and smile knowingly.

[TheDemonLord]

You're absolutely in a position to be able to join in. You're able bodied no? Sign up...go and make a difference. And I don't see how pointing out facts you don't understand makes me a keyboard warrior. And yes, I say, not our mess, not our job to clean it up. So yes, I'm happy to sit on my arse and do nothing. You on the other hand...should go grab some testicles! I'll pay to see that.

Is the NZ army going to places like Somalia, The Congo, North Korea and taking the fight to the Dictators?

No?

Then me joining up to the joke that is the NZ armed forces would achieve nothing.

Pointing out facts is fine, I even understand, however unlike you - I am able to weigh one set of facts against another - you seem to have blinkers on as to just how bad Saddam and his regime was and having an opinion where you ignore the true horrors of what you are implying is what makes you a Keyboard Warrior.

As for your last comments:

2 quotes from History:

"For evil to flourish, it only requires good men to do nothing."

- Simon Wiesenthal

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me"

Pastor Martin Niemöller

I suggest you go read up the annals of history and count all the times that people have let atrocities happen by standing by and saying 'not my mess, not my problem'.

[Katman]

Too funny for words

So let's recap....

You accuse me of back-pedalling.

I point out that I've never claimed what you suggest I've claimed.

Then instead of posting proof of my claim you revert to a posting a meaningless four word reply.

Have I missed anything?

[Crasherfromwayback]

I suggest you go read up the annals of history and count all the times that people have let atrocities happen by standing by and saying 'not my mess, not my problem'.

I suggest you get a brain, then try to learn how to use it. If you think (and you've said you do) illegally invading another country, so you can steal their oil and make millions for your bent cronie mates by giving them all manner of contracts to *rebuild* the very place you've just destroyed, all under the total lie of finding *weapons of mass destruction* is all kosher...you're thicker than I originally thought. We (New Zealanders) didn't create the hell hole that is now Iraq/Syria etc etc...not our job to risk hundreds of our men and women cleaning up the mess the Yanks and Poms created.

[Maha]

Let's not forget that Kuwait is seem by many as the 19th province of Iraq.

Kuwait is what, by many?

[husaberg]

So let's recap....

You accuse me of back-pedalling.

I point out that I've never claimed what you suggest I've claimed.

Then instead of posting proof of my claim you revert to a posting a meaningless four word reply.

Have I missed anything?

Correct.
You have missed the whole original premise of your own argument.
Have you forgotten what that was already......
PS thanks for the red rep I was going to red you back but that would make me as stupid as you, so here's a green same colour as the vegetable you are.

And meanwhile, the Zionists sit back and smile knowingly.

[oldrider]

And meanwhile, the Zionists sit back and smile knowingly.

There are many false trails - Zionism has many branches - that it's difficult to identify and follow the right one is not an accident!

That we waste our time and energy fighting amongst ourselves and missing the point - is no accident either - they are successful because they are clever cunts!

And we are not that is why "we" fight their wars! - -

[Katman]

Kuwait is what, by many?

Have you seen where the n and m live on a keyboard?

[PrincessBandit]

Have you seen where the n and m live on a keyboard?

right mext to each other 😁

[Katman]

right mext to each other ��

I was going to post 'Have you seem where the n and m are on a leyboard' but knew the excitement would just be too much for Mark.