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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    No, their goal is to get stoned...
    If they are in pain, getting stoned relieves the pain. So what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    If they are in pain, getting stoned relieves the pain. So what?
    As I said, it's about honesty. If they want to be able to get stoned legally, lobby for it on that basis. If they are genuinely looking for pain relief it's a non issue. There are hundreds of effective drugs for that. Just don't try to justify your desire to get high by using medical argument. It's crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    It's crap.
    Just like your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    As I said, it's about honesty. If they want to be able to get stoned legally, lobby for it on that basis. If they are genuinely looking for pain relief it's a non issue. There are hundreds of effective drugs for that. Just don't try to justify your desire to get high by using medical argument. It's crap.
    What if they honestly don't believe in drugs that come from pharmaceutical companies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    What if they honestly don't believe in drugs that come from pharmaceutical companies?
    Is that like not believing in jesus?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    What if they honestly don't believe in drugs that come from pharmaceutical companies?
    Then they are ignorant, and willfully so. That's also rubbish, and a spurious argument not founded in reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    As I said, it's about honesty. If they want to be able to get stoned legally, lobby for it on that basis. If they are genuinely looking for pain relief it's a non issue. There are hundreds of effective drugs for that. Just don't try to justify your desire to get high by using medical argument. It's crap.
    Yes using the medical argument as an excuse for getting high is, and there are hundreds of other more effective drugs for that. Using the legal argument should be absolutely no reason for preventing what is quite obviously a very misunderstood medicine, and obviously so for like 10's of thousands of years, from being researched etc... the legal argument is condemning people to death, and I have to wonder if that is known. The let's get stoned argument at least offers a boom in medical research and the birth of an exciting new industry as a byproduct, let alone the chance for people to deal with all sorts of personal issues with a variant that doesn't get one stoned.

    So the argument isn't crap in the slightest, but it is met with resistance using the sole premise of drug legality. Being polite like, otherwise, the resistance is from a position of near complete ignorance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Then they are ignorant, and willfully so. That's also rubbish, and a spurious argument not founded in reality.
    So they have to believe in pharmaceuticals companies then?

    Maybe their disbelief in pharmaceutical companies is a fundamental of their personal value/belief system. A bit like some people not believing in blood transfusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Then they are ignorant, and willfully so. That's also rubbish, and a spurious argument not founded in reality.
    Spoken like a true prescription drug addict.

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    I've been a prescription druggie for most of my adult life

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    So they have to believe in pharmaceuticals companies then?

    Maybe their disbelief in pharmaceutical companies is a fundamental of their personal value/belief system. A bit like some people not believing in blood transfusions.
    Bollox. If people bothered to do their own research properly and not blinded by hearsay or prejudice they would have a far better understanding of things. But as I said, it's not the issue. The people lobbying to legalise Cannabis are those who want to smoke it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Bollox. If people bothered to do their own research properly and not blinded by hearsay or prejudice they would have a far better understanding of things. But as I said, it's not the issue. The people lobbying to legalise Cannabis are those who want to smoke it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Bollox. If people bothered to do their own research properly and not blinded by hearsay or prejudice they would have a far better understanding of things. But as I said, it's not the issue. The people lobbying to legalise Cannabis are those who want to smoke it.
    Wrong again Ed - I for one support legalising Cannabis and I have never ever seen or smoked a leaf - ever!

    Cannabis is a much maligned plant that but for the criminal labels attached could be providing us (mankind) with a zillion benefits!

    The current drug laws do not and have not ever worked and if anything are supporting an undesirable cluster of criminal industries!

    In my estimation it is you who does not understand!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Wrong again Ed - I for one support legalising Cannabis and I have never ever seen or smoked a leaf - ever!

    Cannabis is a much maligned plant that but for the criminal labels attached could be providing us (mankind) with a zillion benefits!

    The current drug laws do not and have not ever worked and if anything are supporting an undesirable cluster of criminal industries!

    In my estimation it is you who does not understand!
    On the contrary, I have done the research and a lot of people in power have no problem with developing the plant's key ingredients. The opposition is regarding the use of it as a recreational drug.

    There has been a lot of research into the pain relief potential but there are better drugs readily available. Easy enough to find.
    I have clearly stated my personal views and everyone should know that I have no objection to the research and development of any plant for its possible benefits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    On the contrary
    Nah, Oldrider is right. You are talking shit outside your area of knowledge. Again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Easy enough to find.
    Pretty sure you are not allowed to use this site to fish for sales of prescription drugs...











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