What's your preferred fuel?

[Swoop]

My preferred fuel is JET-A1. Lovely smell and certainly brings back many memories of turbines of all shapes and sizes.
For the bike: petrol.

Least favourite: Diesel. It's Satan's mouthwash.

What sort on a numb nuts comment is that?

Did you notice a "whoosh" sound as something went over your head?

[Paul in NZ]

My fave fuel is gf weetbix and fruit first thing - don't care middle and a nice steak for dinner...

[F5 Dave]

Atlantic is the best but I haven't seen one of their stations around for a while.

So what kind of oil do people like?


[Runs away and hits the unsubscribe button giggling]

[Akzle]

So what kind of oil do people like?

[Moise]

Europa was the best!

[F5 Dave]

Ahh the big E on the quay in wgtn.

[Flip]

Ahh the big E on the quay in wgtn.

That takes me back............. You how old that makes you?

Almost as old as me.

Mobile1 4w50 in the sports car. Valvoline 20w50 mixed fleet lube in everything else.

Mobile1 V2 or HD syn3 in the tractor.

[awayatc]

Just an amusing wee dit.

At the weekend one of the Booze Bus staff filled the bus with petrol.

It's not a petrol vehicle.

It's been seen being towed away for fixing.

DOH !!

That's funny......

red on blue...

must have been a she surely......

No promotion for a wee while .?

[RDJ]

I am not ruling out - entirely - the possibility of Placebo Effect, but my V8-engined motorcycles (old-style Detroit V8 crate engines) run way best with BP 98. Gotta supercharged AUII 2000 XR8 which definitely does not like 91/93 but runs smoothly on 98 (95 at a pinch...). The '73 Land Rover and the '05 Toyota supermarket basket don't seem to care.

[F5 Dave]

That takes me back............. You how old that makes you?

Almost as old as me.

Mobile1 4w50 in the sports car. Valvoline 20w50 mixed fleet lube in everything else.

Mobile1 V2 or HD syn3 in the tractor.

Nah I'm not that old surely. And I was of course joking about turning it into and endless oil thread.
But I'm not sure if I trust bridgestone Tyres. Made in Japan aren't they?

[speedpro]

My car manual tells me how much power it makes with various octane fuel - more with higher octane. My old turbo Cefiro definitely made more power with 98 and was sharper, and the previous car, shitbox 1.8 Legnum, did not like 91 and at the end even 95, at all. My Scooter is noticeably faster on gull E10 compared to even BP98.

[Moi]

That takes me back............. You know how old that makes you?

Almost as old as me...

You're not old... unless you remember filling your Sunbeam with Plume from 4 gallon tins...

[manxkiwi]

My SV1000 ran fine on 91 the Bonnie to. With the bike I stop anywhere but as its injected might start to use Caltex more often if Old Steve is correct

SV1000's handbook states 91 as the recommended octane fuel, so that would make sense.

I was at Manfield many years ago, when Glen Williams had just got his SV650. He was saying to me it went best on 91, on track.

I'm in the camp of; 'if you run anything above what the manual states', you're wasting your money, when it comes to average, stock vehicles.

[Big Dog]

This is not entirely true, for your average vehicle anything is generally okay.
However, the Gull force 10 is not ideal for economy, eth needs to be run richer to burn well. And it's just a waste of time without having a set up for it, running a flex sensor and adaptive ECU.
It also gobbles moisture, I spose it's hygroscopic



Many vehicles are pretty happy on your average 91/95, but there are also a lot that want higher octane fuels. A fair few Hondas and whatnot of JDM origins ran different timing to our NZDM ones (IE: the B16A EK Civic SiR and VTiR) and the JDM ones aren't too chuffed about our 91 fuel.
Same goes for the 5.7 Holdens, they have a disgusting head design and detonate to fuck on 91, the knock sensors pull a shitload of timing and they are gutless as fuck, use more gas and get a bit warm when you load em up.

On the other hand, a mate's Escort rally car would make no more power on Av gas , but will det to death on 91.

So, run whatever the hell you want, but I, personally run 98 in my bikes (they all tend to have ignition advancers anyway). A fair few bikes will happily run on 91, but the likes of your 600RR will be running more efficiently with decent petrol.

If it is not too far out of my way I always try and get Gull force whatever their 91 is. if I can take on at least 3/4 of a tank.
Runs like poo at 50/50 or less. Black smoke smoke, uneven idle on the DR, just not as much pull on the fuel injected bikes I have tried. Namely, Hayabusa, er6, CB1300.
With the tank almost empty first there is noticeably more linear power and if you run several tanks in a row a less black pipe.
The DR smells like whiskey when running it. Especially if I have been giving the berries. Enough so that it got commented on going through some checkpoints.
The Hayabusa was far more linear an went through the rev ranges much more quickly.
Er6 was not long enough for comment beyond it idled more evenly.
CB runs like silk on it. A lot of the angry in the pipe when downshifting is gone.
The only reason it is not my go to fuel is it is a fair distance to go to get it. Not terribly far but enough that any economy gain is lost getting there.

On economy:
DR on any other fuel 19km/l.
On gull first tank no evidential difference. Subsequent tanks 21 km/l.

Hayabusa 16km/l on normal fuel.
BP 98 on the open road better economy not sure how much, significantly more inefficient and lumpy at city speeds.
Gull it got 17.5km/l normal usage. About the same as BP 98 for the open road, and a bit better than ordinary fuel around the city.
CB I have only had a few tanks through. Most of my riding is motorway these days. Gets between 15-17km/l most days. 16-18km/l was recorded for the tanks of gull.

Not definitive be any stretch. But that is my observations.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Erelyes]

In NZ I always use Caltex because of it's detergent additive (Techron?). Over here in Aus, Caltex don't additise their 91, so I've been using their additised 95. I'm looking forward to the better 91 octane fuel when I'm finally home next week, but am not looking forward to the prices, $1.32/L for ULP91 here in tropical QLD.

A detergent additive in the petrol keeps the injector pintle clean of deposits and produces a better spray out of the injector which means the fuel burns better, and keeps deposits off the back of the inlet valve which gives easier starting and smoother running when up to temperature. A detergent additive in the petrol also cleans a carburettor if you have one. You can get up to 4% better fuel economy, especially in a smaller engine.

Look like the death of Techron in NZ may be nigh.