Full License Soon - 600cc or 1000cc?

[p.dath]

How funny. I was looking over my blog and found something I had written about this exact subject.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/en...a-1000cc-bike)

[nzspokes]

You werent, it just sounded quite funny the way you wrote it.

The predator has torque limited slightly in 1st and 2nd, combined with a heavy and quiet factory exhaust, it sells the bike short.
Mines now about as loud as it can legally be, and is a hilarious wheelie machine, but it still probably only makes 130hp on a good day.
I'd love a S1000 or similiar, but I'd settle for a small supercharger on my current steed.

In some markets you can get a CB1000R, CBF1000, CBR1000RR, on top of the VFR and other offerings, but they all have different pluses and minues. Sometimes I wish I lived in the UK.

Bit surprised by the 130hp. Didn't feel like it when I rode one.

[5ive]

a well ridden 6 can hold its own against most bikes bigger,

So can the OP's 3

[5ive]

There has been numerous posts on this website over the years that there is no such thing as riding under pressure to "Keep Up" or as you put it "Prove Yourself" Those that make such claims possibly dont ride enough to see the riding behaviour of other riders or perhaps are in denial that they do that themselves.

Move on, no one cares bro.

[baffa]

Bit surprised by the 130hp. Didn't feel like it when I rode one.

It probably doesnt compare quite as well to the low range torque of your superhawk.
Should meet up sometime and do a quick swap, I'm curious to do a back to back

[nzspokes]

It probably doesnt compare quite as well to the low range torque of your superhawk.
Should meet up sometime and do a quick swap, I'm curious to do a back to back

Well at the time I was comparing it to a 900 Hornet and my old Bandit 1200. Felt very close to the Hornet. Just smaller. My old and our new Bandit 1200 felt stronger in mid and top.

Superhawk is a different bike altogether. Real strong mid and less up top.

[caspernz]

There has been numerous posts on this website over the years that there is no such thing as riding under pressure to "Keep Up" or as you put it "Prove Yourself" Those that make such claims possibly dont ride enough to see the riding behaviour of other riders or perhaps are in denial that they do that themselves.

Human nature being what it is, devoid of sufficient experience the most common trait is the "I wants to be zee leader of da pack" which sometimes leads to a date with a lovely nurse or the coroner. No words anyone espouses on these pages will change this trait, especially when bearing in mind the "little boy who cried wolf" tale, iykwim.

[jonbuoy]

Human nature being what it is, devoid of sufficient experience the most common trait is the "I wants to be zee leader of da pack" which sometimes leads to a date with a lovely nurse or the coroner. No words anyone espouses on these pages will change this trait, especially when bearing in mind the "little boy who cried wolf" tale, iykwim.

Especially if the leader of the pack is on a 1000cc and your on a 400/600 and you have something to "prove".

[FJRider]

Human nature being what it is, devoid of sufficient experience the most common trait is the "I wants to be zee leader of da pack" which sometimes leads to a date with a lovely nurse or the coroner. No words anyone espouses on these pages will change this trait, especially when bearing in mind the "little boy who cried wolf" tale, iykwim.

It's usually the (experienced ??) riders on the faster bikes trying to show how good/fast THEY are ... to the slower less experienced riders (often on smaller bikes) and giving them a hard time if they can't keep up.

[caseye]

It's usually the (experienced ??) riders on the faster bikes trying to show how good/fast THEY are ... to the slower less experienced riders (often on smaller bikes) and giving them a hard time if they can't keep up.

Is that you Mrs cassina?
Sorry FJ, couldn't resist.
You are 100% right as IT was for the first time in IT's life when it said something similar, we here all know that and most of us try not to be that dick on a bike.
But life dictates that there is always one.

[FJRider]

But life dictates that there is always one.

Often MORE than one on a ride.

I reckon I have better tits than Cassina ... thats why she she has not revealed them (jealousy)

[biketimus_prime]

I don't even have my full and I have an R6 waiting for me. It was cheap and mint condition so I decided to get it and hold on to it.
I ride a DRZ400 daily, step up from my 250s.

I say this as someone who isn't the most amazing rider but good enough to be pretty quick in my riding group. The DRZ400 is more than enough to keep you entertained in the hills and keep up with a group in the twisties if you ride it well.

The R6 is absolutely nuts as it is. I am in 5th or 6th gear doing 50kph, I open the throttle a bit and I'm about to lose my licence if a cop goes past. I find myself constantly braking harder than I do on my other bikes, stuff happens faster because I'm consistently speeding, even 65 in a 50 just feels more comfortable. 120 than 100 feels nicer, the bike just feels better at a faster speed. I don't have enough maturity and control to handle the R6 just yet. I take it for the odd ride when the roads are quiet, no point risking a crash. But hell it'll take me years and years of riding to fully ride it to it's capability. Not on the street either, I'll have to do track days. The twisties are nothing for it.

Another thing to consider is going up to a big bike straight away, the power makes up for shit riding. You can be the biggest pussy entering a corner, take it at the posted limit or less, body upright, bike leaned over "fuck yeah I'm Rossi", all round terrible riding but then just power out like nobodys business and leave everyone behind you in the dust.
You may think you're fast, but the mirror doesn't lie, the guy behind you is braking harder than ever to avoid running into the back of you.
I KNOW I rode slower into each corner on my R6 and yet I was faster than I have ever been on any other bike.
The power hides shit riding and you will not learn as well as you could on a smaller bike before taking the step up.
I'm at the point where I would consider selling the R6 for just a pure track bike and keep the DRZ for my weekend rides and commuting. Otherwise I'd have to do a shitload of track days on the R6 to really ride it to it's capabilities and improve my riding with it.

[Erelyes]

giving them a hard time if they can't keep up.

The clever ones will give the newbies a hard time if they try to keep up.

[FJRider]

The clever ones will give the newbies a hard time if they try to keep up.

The clever ones ride at a pace they CAN keep up with ...

[biketimus_prime]

The reason why your bike would feel better when speeding would be due to the gear ratios as in 1 gear at the speed limit it would feel like its being over revved but going up a gear you can be a bit over the limit for the bike to not feel like its being over revved. Thats my experience anyway. Your theory about becoming better the faster you ride sounds like you will end up coming to grief at some stage.

Yeah it is the gear ratio and the RPM range the bike feels better cruising along at. I've heard a common mod on the R6 is to drop a front tooth and add one on the rear.

I didn't say I become better the faster I ride though. Nothing of the sort. You may have misinterpreted what I said.
I do however think the R6 is overkill for the street and my DRZ is more than enough.
The R6 will get me in trouble unless I learn to tame it and my own riding.