Minutes from BRONZ meeting with ACC minister on safety and levy reduction

[FJRider]

Why do you have to sully such a beautiful story?

It's what I do ... apparently ...



You however ... just keep bleating on ...

[Berries]

Seriously, if you can't tell the difference between Nikki Kaye and Nick Smith your eyes need checking..

To be fair, in Auckland and Wellington Nikki could be a blokes name.

[98tls]

To be fair, in Auckland and Wellington Nikki could be a blokes name.

To be fair in Auckland or Wellington Nikki could indeed be accepted as a man.....

[98tls]

Seriously, if you can't tell the difference between Nikki Kaye and Nick Smith your eyes need checking.

And your pulse.

As per my last post.

[98tls]

I think you will get more sense out of Nikki Kaye than you'd ever get out of Nick "we're building houses" Smith...

Possibly but what you wont get is any interest in motorcycles or the levys attached to them.

[GTRMAN]

Possibly but what you wont get is any interest in motorcycles or the levys attached to them.

You may be right, or you may be wrong. But from my perspective sitting in the meeting there was actual interest from Nikki.

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[MadDuck]

All I can make out is try again in 3months and ill let some office junior talk to you next time.

Despite a huge effort from the BRONZ team over the last 6 months this kind of sums it up. It is not easy and if we think this has changed anything whatsoever then for lack of words ....

[Voltaire]

Would not ACC look at riding gear other than the mandatory helmet?
Is there a relationship between motorcycle power/rider experience and crashes?

[jellywrestler]

Would not ACC look at riding gear other than the mandatory helmet?
Is there a relationship between motorcycle power/rider experience and crashes?

how would you apply that to a bike, they are registered, not the rider....

[mossy1200]

Still maintain Levy the licence not each bike since the cover is for injury of the person. Do that and the lower risk riders will consume more bikes leaving the inexperienced part timers less cheap bikes to buy. Before you argue this makes as much sense as anything else being tried and I just want to own a lot more bikes without insuring myself more often.

[local]

Still maintain Levy the licence not each bike since the cover is for injury of the person. Do that and the lower risk riders will consume more bikes leaving the inexperienced part timers less cheap bikes to buy. Before you argue this makes as much sense as anything else being tried and I just want to own a lot more bikes without insuring myself more often.

As long as you can put your class 6 licence on hold when you have no bikes or are not riding them for >3 months this could work.

[Rhys]

Are scooter crashes added to motorcycle or car statistics ? As they are ride on a car license it would make sense to be added to car statistics

[Voltaire]

how would you apply that to a bike, they are registered, not the rider....

Don't know, it makes me cringe when I see riders with no gloves or office attire.

Currently its either make it the law and you get fined for non compliance or education.

Sliding across the track at Taupo a few weeks ago showed me the value of gloves and leathers.

Talking to the guy at Star Insurance last week whilst looking at his basement of crash damaged bikes I asked about what the common crashes were.

Front end sliding out seemed to be a common one, in his opinion riders were going in to a corner too hot, then throttling off, unsettling the bike and off the road.

These were bikes with ABS and Traction Control.

If I was ACC I'd give a discount on the ACC portion of the rego for attendance at The California Superbike School or similar rider training.

More training and education and better riding gear.

[tri boy]

I don't give a fuck what conditions that are required BEFORE ACC will CONSIDER changes to the levy system.
I don't give a fuck about many things...............

[davebullet]

how would you apply that to a bike, they are registered, not the rider....

You make an application on change of ownership also supplying your drivers license.

When the bike sells, the ACC levy reverts to the highest level for the risk class of bike. You apply (on buying) to reduce based on rider criteria.