Stupid World

[James Deuce]

I understand that some consider the tax exemption of charitable donations to be unfair for some reason.

But seriously, you'd have to be totally fucked in the head to consider it some sort of unethical process. I mean, the donation is 100% gone from the donor's pocket, whether he's paid tax on it or not simply alters the quantity actually available to charity.

There's nothing quite as ugly as the petty jealousy that's capable of the sort of logical contortions that can bitch about how much someone has voluntarily given from his own pocket. Except the sort that expects him to pay twice as much to compensate for another charity having taken the first lot.

Voluntarily given in the misguided impression that Charities actually do anything except farm money.

The whole rort needs to go. Charities need to pay tax. Churches need to pay tax. The very best charities are hitting about 8% of income going out in actual aid that measurably improves an outcome related to the specific goal of the charity. 99% of them are as bullshit as churches.

[mashman]

Koch warns conservatives must demand smaller government... bwaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa, coz it's all the govt fault where the fuck do these people get their ideas from.

[mashman]

Proof of Trump's charity giving elusive... sorry dude, you simply haven't given enough and therefore aren't worthy of anything.

[Ocean1]

Voluntarily given in the misguided impression that Charities actually do anything except farm money.

The whole rort needs to go. Charities need to pay tax. Churches need to pay tax. The very best charities are hitting about 8% of income going out in actual aid that measurably improves an outcome related to the specific goal of the charity. 99% of them are as bullshit as churches.

I don't agree. And my old man was involved in exposing one of the largest "charitable" rorts ever. Donations for genuine charities should be tax deductible, but let's define charities as those run by volunteers. By all means blame the governments that gave charities that spend most of the donations "in-house" tax exempt status, but don't blame those who dug into their own pocket to help. An ethical solution is pretty simple, make the exemption relative to the amount actually hitting the target.

Also, most of the big philanthropic contributors don't actually use existing organisations, they set up their own charitable trusts where they've got control over "costs", (cough), and the books for most of those are pretty transparent.

[Brian d marge]

I don't agree. And my old man was involved in exposing one of the largest "charitable" rorts ever. Donations for genuine charities should be tax deductible, but let's define charities as those run by volunteers. By all means blame the governments that gave charities that spend most of the donations "in-house" tax exempt status, but don't blame those who dug into their own pocket to help. An ethical solution is pretty simple, make the exemption relative to the amount actually hitting the target.

Also, most of the big philanthropic contributors don't actually use existing organisations, they set up their own charitable trusts where they've got control over "costs", (cough), and the books for most of those are pretty transparent.

I think you had better spend sometime on google ..... As Im sure you do not understand the Tax benefits the US gives for Donations to charities

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...e-8822421.html

Cant see this ending well ....my pop down to Bunnings... and get me fire extinguishers checked !

Stephen

[mashman]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...e-8822421.html

Cant see this ending well ....my pop down to Bunnings... and get me fire extinguishers checked !

Stephen

Getting rid of the king would be a good start... fucker sounds baked.

[jonbuoy]

I think you had better spend sometime on google ..... As Im sure you do not understand the Tax benefits the US gives for Donations to charities

Stephen

Would you be happier if he just opted in for complete tax avoidance schemes like other wealthy people?

[Brian d marge]

Would you be happier if he just opted in for complete tax avoidance schemes like other wealthy people?

Now why would you say such a thing


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[jonbuoy]

Now why would you say such a thing


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So your happy hes donating to charity?

[Ocean1]

I think you had better spend sometime on google ..... As Im sure you do not understand the Tax benefits the US gives for Donations to charities

Stephen

OK...

It's exactly as I understood: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charit..._United_States

Which must mean, leme see now... YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT!

[husaberg]

I think you had better spend sometime on google ..... As Im sure you do not understand the Tax benefits the US gives for Donations to charities

Stephen

Silly Stephen, Tax is only for poor people.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...ofits-so-what/
http://www.cheatsheet.com/business/4...tml/?a=viewall

[Ocean1]

Silly Stephen, Tax is only for poor people.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...ofits-so-what/
http://www.cheatsheet.com/business/4...tml/?a=viewall

The "Citizens for Tax Justice" facebook claim the Forbes article was rebutting is pretty heavily spun. Sad to see such bullshit taken seriously.

There is certainly a case for multinationals to be paying tax on earnings taken in each country TO that country, rather than shuffle it back to some pea-and-shell game featuring the Cayman Islands or some such...

[husaberg]

The "Citizens for Tax Justice" facebook claim the Forbes article was rebutting is pretty heavily spun. Sad to see such bullshit taken seriously.

There is certainly a case for multinationals to be paying tax on earnings taken in each country TO that country, rather than shuffle it back to some pea-and-shell game featuring the Cayman Islands or some such...

From Memory they only paid about 12000 dollars here a few years ago.
There is a case but no one has the balls.

[Brian d marge]

Silly Stephen, Tax is only for poor people.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...ofits-so-what/
http://www.cheatsheet.com/business/4...tml/?a=viewall

Must spread me legs again .....

but I can give you


Stephen