Stupid World

[mashman]

Unhappy at home, miserable abroad. The classic whiney pommy arsehole despised everywhere he drags his sorry arse.

Try Australia. They fucking love you over there.

Could be something to do with the foreigners we meet.

Nah... more fun watchin the locals, somewhat ironically I might add, moan and bitch about us poms moaning and bitching than it would be to be welcomed with open arms elsewhere. You brighten my day. Thanks

[carbonhed]

Could be something to do with the foreigners we meet.

Nah... more fun watchin the locals, somewhat ironically I might add, moan and bitch about us poms moaning and bitching than it would be to be welcomed with open arms elsewhere. You brighten my day. Thanks

bwaaaahahaha you've found somewhere where you're welcomed with open arms.... fkin brilliant... priceless.... that scouse humour.... cue more retarded bwahahhhahaaaaaaaa.

And with that I bid you adieu. Have a nice day!

[mashman]

bwaaaahahaha you've found somewhere where you're welcomed with open arms.... fkin brilliant... priceless.... that scouse humour.... cue more retarded bwahahhhahaaaaaaaa.

And with that I bid you adieu. Have a nice day!

heh... may your evening be as funny as me.

[bogan]

Fuck all, Can I borrow a $20 of you (million) edit 25million without changing flag, yet no money for solid energy.

When it comes down to around 5 bucks each person in the country, and you're still making it financial, the question about changing our nation's flag, our national identity some might even say; an issue about the five bucks each cost, that's fucked up.

I think we should change it.

Perhaps the solid energy issue is also not just about money...

[husaberg]

When it comes down to around 5 bucks each person in the country, and you're still making it financial, the question about changing our nation's flag, our national identity some might even say; an issue about the five bucks each cost, that's fucked up.

I think we should change it.

Perhaps the solid energy issue is also not just about money...

Bogan the 25 million is only the cost of discussing the change.
Solid energy was made to borrow money to pay a dividend, They were made to buy a worthless mine.(Pike)
They were also made to pay a Carbon tax that would normally be equivalent to there profit margin to who?
They were made to stop production underground because of pike then had to lay off and pay a heap of redundancies. Yet more $$$$$$
China refused to honour contracts yet when NZ does for a Saudi sheep farmer, NZ shells out. Yet there was not a whisper about Chinas contracts they never honoured..........
On paper as a company they are pretty worthless unless you consider they own most of the mineral rights to NZ.
What's the bet they will be flogged off for bugger all to a Rio Tinto or a BHP.
Solid energy was badly run, were badly run, but the Government is happy to prop up the private bluff smelter but not their own company?
The number of jobs is similar the ownership is not.

[Brian d marge]

Try Australia. They fucking love you over there.

Thats better than the kiwis . . .

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[Lightbulb]

To me, the issues that have failed solid energy, formerly coal corp is similar to fonterras current issues. They decided to use commodity price structure for the sale of coal international pricing. Originally coal corp was to supply NZ businesses competitive priced coal. But changed to a profit centre. Initially it all looked good until the commodity prices dropped. The coal is still a very valuable resource , but like other things will be sold off cheap for a foreign buyer to making money from NZ and effectively be adding to our international debt. Effectively we will be paying them to take our recourses.
Every thing that has been privatised has ended up costing more for NZ consumers. Not 1 thing sold has brought lower prices for, power, water,medical care, communications, etc etc.
Neil

[Brian d marge]

heh... may your evening be as funny as me.

Now look what you did

all the fish left the barrel



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[Brian d marge]

When it comes down to around 5 bucks each person in the country, and you're still making it financial, the question about changing our nation's flag, our national identity some might even say; an issue about the five bucks each cost, that's fucked up.

I think we should change it.

Perhaps the solid energy issue is also not just about money...

I like the new design where the silver fern replaces the union jack

But wouldnt that 26 million dollars be better spend on dole bludging layabouts

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[Brian d marge]

To me, the issues that have failed solid energy, formerly coal corp is similar to fonterras current issues. They decided to use commodity price structure for the sale of coal international pricing. Originally coal corp was to supply NZ businesses competitive priced coal. But changed to a profit centre. Initially it all looked good until the commodity prices dropped. The coal is still a very valuable resource , but like other things will be sold off cheap for a foreign buyer to making money from NZ and effectively be adding to our international debt. Effectively we will be paying them to take our recourses.
Every thing that has been privatised has ended up costing more for NZ consumers. Not 1 thing sold has brought lower prices for, power, water,medical care, communications, etc etc.
Neil

That my young friend is called asset stripping

I wonder how the mom and pop investors are getting along with their share prices

They should have invested in chinese houses . .


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[Scuba_Steve]

Bogan the 25 million is only the cost of discussing the change.
Solid energy was made to borrow money to pay a dividend, They were made to buy a worthless mine.(Pike)
They were also made to pay a Carbon tax that would normally be equivalent to there profit margin to who?
They were made to stop production underground because of pike then had to lay off and pay a heap of redundancies. Yet more $$$$$$
China refused to honour contracts yet when NZ does for a Saudi sheep farmer, NZ shells out. Yet there was not a whisper about Chinas contracts they never honoured..........
On paper as a company they are pretty worthless unless you consider they own most of the mineral rights to NZ.
What's the bet they will be flogged off for bugger all to a Rio Tinto or a BHP.
Solid energy was badly run, were badly run, but the Government is happy to prop up the private bluff smelter but not their own company?
The number of jobs is similar the ownership is not.

Careful there, it's starting to sound very much like a conspiracy theory

[bogan]

Bogan the 25 million is only the cost of discussing the change.
Solid energy was made to borrow money to pay a dividend, They were made to buy a worthless mine.(Pike)
They were also made to pay a Carbon tax that would normally be equivalent to there profit margin to who?
They were made to stop production underground because of pike then had to lay off and pay a heap of redundancies. Yet more $$$$$$
China refused to honour contracts yet when NZ does for a Saudi sheep farmer, NZ shells out. Yet there was not a whisper about Chinas contracts they never honoured..........
On paper as a company they are pretty worthless unless you consider they own most of the mineral rights to NZ.
What's the bet they will be flogged off for bugger all to a Rio Tinto or a BHP.
Solid energy was badly run, were badly run, but the Government is happy to prop up the private bluff smelter but not their own company?
The number of jobs is similar the ownership is not.

Cost of the referendum init? We're discussing it now, for free. My point is that a flag change is not about money, money is how everything gets done, so anything can be made about it; but it's often just a distraction or diversionary tactic.

Do you think we should change the flag?

[bogan]

I like the new design where the silver fern replaces the union jack

But wouldnt that 26 million dollars be better spend on dole bludging layabouts

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There is a really good one out there.

Could be both if they get off their arses and make the new flags.

[Brian d marge]

There is a really good one out there.

Could be both if they get off their arses and make the new flags.

Hahahahaa true

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[husaberg]

Cost of the referendum init? We're discussing it now, for free. My point is that a flag change is not about money, money is how everything gets done, so anything can be made about it; but it's often just a distraction or diversionary tactic.

Do you think we should change the flag?

That is the officially released estimates of the cost as for my personal opinion changing it is not as important as using the money for more worthwhile ventures.
I find the use of a referendum funny when we have a history of governments ignoring the outcomes of CIR's anyway.