MotoGP 2015

[Shaun Harris]

For the haters:

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/0...is-best/185685

Factory HRC bike, 1 win av per year, wippy do

[eelracing]

[QUOTE=Autech;1130906964]For the haters:

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/0...is-best/185685

Lets bring a bit of reality back to the table in the final lap scrap stakes.

Oh that's right Husa already has.

Race prior
1. Valentino Rossi 247 points
2. Jorge Lorenzo 224 points (-23)
3. Marc Marquez 184 points (-63)
4. Andrea Iannone 159 points (-88)
5. Bradley Smith 135 points (-112)
6. Andrea Dovizioso 128 points (-119)
7. Dani Pedrosa 109 points (-138)


After this race

1 Valentino ROSSI Yamaha ITA 263 points
2 Jorge LORENZO Yamaha SPA 249
3 Marc MARQUEZ Honda SPA 184
4 Andrea IANNONE Ducati ITA 172
5 Bradley SMITH Yamaha GBR 143
6 Andrea DOVIZIOSO Ducati ITA 139
7 Dani PEDROSA Honda SPA 129

Daniboy had nothing to lose...but good on him,he deserved second place.

[Autech]

Daniboy had nothing to lose...but good on him,he deserved second place.

Rossi said that he was happy to battle with Dani as he is not a muppet and won't take him out, paraphrased slightly (lots) but you get what I mean. Something along the lines of "With Dani I can push the maximum for the overtake". Was a nice clean battle.

Lets think about the two battles the golden boy Marquez and Rossi have had this year, who came out on top? Rossi! The best brawler on the paddock. Both times MM either ended up on his arse or nearly did by riding to collide with Rossi and paid the price for it. Great to see that a clean battle can be fought, shows that Rossi gives what he is given. Do unto others... etc etc.

[pritch]

I haven't noticed Pedrosa haters hereabout. The kindest thing you could say about his MotoGP career though is that it has been underwhelming. Especially considering that for a couple of seasons Honda were designing the bike around him.

He has had bad luck with accidents, and for a long time he was under the seemingly malignant influence of Puig. Since coming out-from-under he has seemed a lot happier, and on the evidence of a couple of nights ago is capable of mixing it with the best. Well done him.

[Oscar]

I haven't noticed Pedrosa haters hereabout. The kindest thing you could say about his MotoGP career though is that it has been underwhelming. Especially considering that for a couple of seasons Honda were designing the bike around him.

He has had bad luck with accidents, and for a long time he was under the seemingly malignant influence of Puig. Since coming out-from-under he has seemed a lot happier, and on the evidence of a couple of nights ago is capable of mixing it with the best. Well done him.

I'm not sure that "underwhelming" is fair.
There are some guys who have been around as long (like Edwards and Hayden) who would give their left nut to have "26 MotoGP Victories" next to their name.

[jasonu]

I haven't noticed Pedrosa haters hereabout. The kindest thing you could say about his MotoGP career though is that it has been underwhelming. Especially considering that for a couple of seasons Honda were designing the bike around him.

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The modern day Randy Mamola.

[roogazza]

He has had bad luck with accidents, and for a long time he was under the seemingly malignant influence of Puig. Since coming out-from-under he has seemed a lot happier, and on the evidence of a couple of nights ago is capable of mixing it with the best. Well done him.

I'd like to see Pedro get a kiddie size cap when he makes the podium .

ps one that he doesn't have to stuff his ears into....

rode well tho huh, nothing to lose.

[pritch]

There are some guys who have been around as long (like Edwards and Hayden) who would give their left nut to have "26 MotoGP Victories" next to their name.

Ahh but Hayden has MotoGP Champion after his name. Despite being the chosen one Pedro never managed that.

[Shaun Harris]

Ahh but Hayden has MotoGP Champion after his name. Despite being the chosen one Pedro never managed that.

And was about the easiest won World championship I have ever seen over the years. Fair play to him though, the points added up obviously

[Crasherfromwayback]

So Rossi got in waaaay too hot many times. Could've skittled Pedro had he not been race wise enough to let him through, then cut back up the inside of him. Much like Stoner did to him in 2007. When MM gets in too hot...he's a dangerous moron that should be taken out. Seems odd to me. But then again...maybe not.

[jasonu]

So Rossi got in waaaay too hot many times. Could've skittled Pedro had he not been race wise enough to let him through, then cut back up the inside of him. Much like Stoner did to him in 2007. When MM gets in too hot...he's a dangerous moron that should be taken out. Seems odd to me. But then again...maybe not.

Maybe that fear factor is part of his M.O.... 'watch out I'm a dangerous cunt that might take you out if you try it on'. It (and other things) worked for 2 years.

[Drew]

So Rossi got in waaaay too hot many times. Could've skittled Pedro had he not been race wise enough to let him through, then cut back up the inside of him. Much like Stoner did to him in 2007. When MM gets in too hot...he's a dangerous moron that should be taken out. Seems odd to me. But then again...maybe not.

I didn't see Rossi in danger of taking Pedrosa out in any of those overtakes. They were lined up for a good distance, he just couldn't get turned in early enough for them to stick. I imagine Rossi was hoping Danni would be up beside him still and not turn in either, but it all looked clean from my couch.

I've never said I thought Marquez was gonna take folk out though, so I might be missing something.

[Shaun Harris]

Maybe that fear factor is part of his M.O.... 'watch out I'm a dangerous cunt that might take you out if you try it on'. It (and other things) worked for 2 years.

MM is obviously extremely talanted, but did also have the very best bike on the grid for those last 2 years, and now that Yam have caught up, his inexperience ( Only) is standing out to me.

[pritch]

Someone, it might have been Crutchlow, commented after seeing Rossi at work up close for the first time said, "He just charges at them".

[Autech]

So Rossi got in waaaay too hot many times. Could've skittled Pedro had he not been race wise enough to let him through, then cut back up the inside of him. Much like Stoner did to him in 2007. When MM gets in too hot...he's a dangerous moron that should be taken out. Seems odd to me. But then again...maybe not.

Rossi gives what he is given?

MM is obviously extremely talanted, but did also have the very best bike on the grid for those last 2 years, and now that Yam have caught up, his inexperience ( Only) is standing out to me.

That and changing back to the 2014 frame really isn't going to help him next year I think. Pedrosa stuck with the 15 and made it work riding around it's obvious issues. Marquez seems content to keep pushing the front till oblivion, you can only be so fast...
Wasn't that the same corner he took Pedrosa out on a few years back doing his usual "rider in front of me but I won't change my braking marker" bullshit?