MotoGP 2015

[Crasherfromwayback]

Or maybe they would've hit him with four points? You talk about blinkers mate?

Should've actually been disqualified from the race I think.

[onearmedbandit]

And Rossi hasn't? Go back and watch Rossi vs Gibernau, or Rossi vs Stoner, or Rossi vs his own team mate at Montegi 2010. You know...when Lorenzo was going for the title that Rossi had NO chance of winning...yet he tried his best to fuck up his own team mate? And Rossi wants to bitch about MM trying to stop him winning the title? Laughable sorry mate.

Mate where did I say he hadn't? I've watched the racing, like you, since before Rossi was on the scene. I'm just reminding some that seem to have forgotten about MM's past. Sorry if you took that personally but you're not the only one who has called Rossi the dirtiest racer ever.

[Erelyes]

Some insane riding by the 2 of them. Some one was gunna crash out. I hope Rossi can escape punishment.

Thanks for creating a new thread with a spoiler in the title.

Did Rossi know he was there? Yes.
Did Rossi slow and block by going off line? Yes.
Did he kick him? Dunno.
Did he nudge him? Nah.

What I do know is you don't lean on someone using you front wheel.

This. MM was goading Vale and making some pretty suss passes himself.

Was Vale smart in blocking him? No, but in itself it was a minor act and not worthy of a DQ etc.
Did Vale knock MM off deliberately? No. From my view, MM thought that Vale was going to leave him on the outside and turn back in, so turned in himself. Except Rossi didn't turn in. You can see MM's bike shaking from contact before Vale's knee (reflexively) comes out.

Vale is guilty of an unsportsmanlike block, and deliberately running MM wide, but the fault of MM falling lies with both MM and VR. Ergo it's only fair to penalise VR for running him wide, not for the fall.

Vale's still a dick though, he would have been better letting the battle sort itself out for a while then chasing after Lorenzo (or, getting a tow behind MM, if MM was inclined to do so!)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mate where did I say he hadn't? I've watched the racing, like you, since before Rossi was on the scene. I'm just reminding some that seem to have forgotten about MM's past. Sorry if you took that personally but you're not the only one who has called Rossi the dirtiest racer ever.

All good mate, I don't take it personally. I simply think that MM plays hard and sometimes hard gets close to out of control. But to me, there's a big difference between hard and dirty. What we saw last night, was nothing but outright dirty.

[puddytat]

Did Rossi know he was there? Yes.
Did Rossi slow and block by going off line? Yes.
Did he kick him? Dunno.
Did he nudge him? Nah.

What I do know is you don't lean on someone using you front wheel.

And that's what makes me think that its Marques fault.....he tuned in to Rossi & lost the front end dramatically fast at a relatively slow speed or maybe his brake lever contacted Rossi?

[onearmedbandit]

Should've actually been disqualified from the race I think.

Disqualified for blocking??

[onearmedbandit]

All good mate, I don't take it personally. I simply think that MM plays hard and sometimes hard gets close to out of control. But to me, there's a big difference between hard and dirty. What we saw last night, was nothing but outright dirty.

Blocking or 'kicking'?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Disqualified for blocking??

Purposely running someone out into the marbles yes.

[onearmedbandit]

Purposely running someone out into the marbles yes.

Even Pedrosa said the rider on the inside has the choice on how wide he goes.

[Oscar]

After the race former Rossi rival Casey Stoner was quick to say that if anyone had pulled the move on Rossi that Rossi (allegedly) pulled on Marquez they'd 'have been black-flagged immediately'.

And it's just lucky that Rossi already had a point against him, or otherwise he'd have basically gone unpunished.

Oh come on now, yer not that thick.
They gave hime three coz he already had one.
If he'd of had none, they would have given him four.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Oh come on now, yer not that thick.
They gave hime three coz he already had one.
If he'd of had none, they would have given him four.

We'll never know will we? Still think disqualification would've been the correct decision. But they'd never do that eh? Got the last round to think about!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Even Pedrosa said the rider on the inside has the choice on how wide he goes.

Lol. Clutching at straws there Bro. I'm sure Rossi didn't need to go out to the grass at 30kph.

[Digitdion]

Marques is a slow learner , 3 times he's clashed with Rossi 3 times he has come second. Rossi should have kept his nose clean because he has a very hard road to win the championship from here but I can't really blame him for what he did.

Rossi had to try to chase Lorenzo. If Marquez had taken Rossi out ( they was a very good chance that was going to happen) , then Rossi would have been far worse off in the champion decider points wise.
Rossi was naughty , no doubt. But Marquez had plenty of warning but chose to not back off in the corner.
I think Lorenzo and Marquez do not like the fact that nearly all of the fans love the Doctor.

Perhaps the championship decider will be a national affair. The Spanish taking on( or out) the Italians or vice versa!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Rossi had to try to chase Lorenzo. If Marquez had taken Rossi out ( they was a very good chance that was going to happen) , then Rossi would have been far worse off in the champion decider points wise.
Rossi was naughty , no doubt. But Marquez had plenty of warning but chose to not back off in the corner.
!

Dude....MM is paid by HRC to do his very best in every single race! Why would he want to back off to let Rossi go? Wouldn't he then be guilty of trying to help Rossi beat Lorenzo? The very crime Rossi had a cry about? Get real. All weekend, MM was saying he was having trouble with the front end on a full fuel load. He'd always planned to wait until the fuel load lightened before he could go hard. Of course he was gonna try and beat Rossi. Especially after Rossi's cry. Work it out man.

[Digitdion]

I wonder if Rossi had organised a meeting with Lyn Jarvis, Livio Suppo and Marquez on Thursday. Quiet, private and made his concerns known then and there a different outcome might have been achieved.

On reflection I feel kind of cheated out of a great battle.

The whole weekend was a slow motion meltdown for Rossi.

It ain't over till it's over