FOR SALE - Drew and Alan's sidecar build

[old rig]

Now that will get Drew spanking his monkey......
I'm picking he'll ponder on that for a few hours and go "Right, now we make a new sump...."

If the sump is the same as 2008 zx10 I have a mold and a ally one cast.

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[jellywrestler]

The question is, are we happy to suppose that our grandchildren may never be able to see a shortbike, except in a picture book?

picture books will be gone, but i think classic and post classic racing will take care of that for us

Now that will get Drew spanking his monkey......
I'm picking he'll ponder on that for a few hours and go "Right, now we make a new sump...."

it'll take him longer Drew often takes an hour and a half to watch sixty minutes....

[old rig]

You got that BMW running on methanol yet?

I got it running
(I think the warranty is over )

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[scrivy]

I got it running
(I think the warranty is over )

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Gordies warranty expired as soon as it left his premises....

[old rig]

Gordies warranty expired as soon as it left his premises....

What about steves

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[scrivy]

What about steves

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LOL!!!
That expired when his ballbag started shooting blanks......

[nodrog:Me]

That's kinda not the best solution.

We thought about an oil bath for the primary chain, but there's that pesky issue of 100% containment.

After Wanganui, we're gonna move the swingarm pivot or find a Gixxer thou to drop in it I reckon.

If you give me some dimensions off a fixed plane, I can draw it up for you and measure the chain runs to see exactly what it will do. and if it would pose a significant problem.

the first pic is the first draft I drew for mine, which is ideal with the swingarm pivot in line with the axle and sprocket centres. so at rest the chain is in the tightest position, and only gets smaller as it travels through the arc. But I didn't like how the swingarm point was below the parallel of the axle and ground. so I redrew it and I think I can live with it getting 3mm tighter as it travels through the arc, the top run never gets short enough to worry about it throwing the chain. This is based on the 40mm of shock travel at the axle centre, which it will never achieve as the shock is to be mounted rearward of that point. I've got the opposite problem to you, my sprocket centre sits quite low in the motor (which is probably why moly builds then on 10's not 13's).

[nodrog:Me]

..... but i think classic and post classic racing will take care of that for us
....

you wont be allowed long bikes there, you can only have something that was made in a woolshed in Horotiu, out of scaffold tube, and old dirt speedway tyres.

[scrivy]

you wont be allowed long bikes there, you can only have something that was made in a woolshed in Horotiu, out of scaffold tube, and old dirt speedway tyres.

Did they have $6000 gearboxes back then?

[nodrog:Me]

Did they have $6000 gearboxes back then?

Back when, spyda is talking about future classic racing, so you mean now?

It will probably be "you must run scaffold tube handlebars, and the engine must nearly look like a gsxr1000, but you can fit a 9 speed warp drive off a millennium falcon."

[Grumph]

If the sump is the same as 2008 zx10 I have a mold and a ally one cast.

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Don't think so. 1200 and 1400 are a different family of motors though they look like the 900/1000/1100 externally.
I had a 1400 apart not long back and was surprised how different it was.
Plenty of dry sump setups around for the 1200/1400 though. The Radical sports cars use them, the 1400 was dry sumped.
Only prob for a chair is that you've got to use a separate water pump. Dry sump pumps go where the water pump usually sits.

This is the car setup, replaces pressure pump too unlike i think how you've run the ZX10.

[sidecar bob]

If you give me some dimensions off a fixed plane, I can draw it up for you and measure the chain runs to see exactly what it will do. and if it would pose a significant problem.

the first pic is the first draft I drew for mine, which is ideal with the swingarm pivot in line with the axle and sprocket centres. so at rest the chain is in the tightest position, and only gets smaller as it travels through the arc. But I didn't like how the swingarm point was below the parallel of the axle and ground. so I redrew it and I think I can live with it getting 3mm tighter as it travels through the arc, the top run never gets short enough to worry about it throwing the chain. This is based on the 40mm of shock travel at the axle centre, which it will never achieve as the shock is to be mounted rearward of that point. I've got the opposite problem to you, my sprocket centre sits quite low in the motor (which is probably why moly builds then on 10's not 13's).

That's a pretty smart post for a guy that only makes kitchens.

[nodrog:Me]

That's a pretty smart post for a guy that only makes kitchens.

It would seem I'm not even smart enough to do that.

[nodrog:Me]

Don't think so. 1200 and 1400 are a different family of motors though they look like the 900/1000/1100 externally.
I had a 1400 apart not long back and was surprised how different it was.
Plenty of dry sump setups around for the 1200/1400 though. The Radical sports cars use them, the 1400 was dry sumped.
Only prob for a chair is that you've got to use a separate water pump. Dry sump pumps go where the water pump usually sits.

This is the car setup, replaces pressure pump too unlike i think how you've run the ZX10.

what are you doing with that sohc in the background? can I have it?

[Drew]

Dry stump the engine and lower the engine
Job done

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Dry sump would be fuck all shallower than what we've got...and I could buy a whole written off K6 Gixxer thou for less than the costs involved in going dry sump...and solve more problems we have.