Cancer and the drug companies

[TheDemonLord]

And in the same way that the war industry seeks to protect it's obscene profits through the continual pursuit of war, it wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that the pharmaceutical industry seeks to protect it's obscene profits by maintaining the population at a certain level of unwellness/addiction.

If everyone suddenly became healthy it wouldn't bode well for the prescription drug pushers, would it?

Fortunately for the Pharmaceutical companies - we do a brilliant job of catching diseases all on our own.

And if what you were to say is true - in places without Big Pharma - like Africa, Disease would be virtually unknown... Oh wait....

[Katman]

And if what you were to say is true - in places without Big Pharma - like Africa, Disease would be virtually unknown... Oh wait....

There's probably no money to be made there.

[bogan]

There's probably no money to be made there.

Ah, your uni class was 'missing the point 101' then?

[Katman]

Ah, your uni class was 'missing the point 101' then?

Not at all.

TheDemonLard simply showed his lack of comprehension again.

I never said the pharmaceutical industry has never made any gains in improving our health - I said it wouldn't surprise me to learn that there is a deliberate strategy of maintaining a certain level of unwellness/addiction.

As in "we'll get you better but only to the point where you have to rely on a cocktail of our drugs for the rest of your life".

[bogan]

Not at all.

TheDemonLard simply showed his lack of comprehension again.

I never said the pharmaceutical industry has never made any gains in improving our health - I said it wouldn't surprise me to learn that there is a deliberate strategy of maintaining a certain level of unwellness/addiction.

As in "we'll get you better but only to the point where you have to rely on a cocktail of our drugs for the rest of your life".

You must have got an A in that class.

[TheDemonLord]

Not at all.

TheDemonLard simply showed his lack of comprehension again.

I never said the pharmaceutical industry has never made any gains in improving our health - I said it wouldn't surprise me to learn that there is a deliberate strategy of maintaining a certain level of unwellness/addiction.

As in "we'll get you better but only to the point where you have to rely on a cocktail of our drugs for the rest of your life".

You got any evidence for that pretty strong claim?

No?

Didn't think so.

It's not that I lack comprehension - it is just you can't see passed your Conspiracy Specs.

The case in Africa shows that without any intervention by Big Pharma, Humans will quite happily catch a multitude of Virulent and deadly diseases.

Showing that Big Pharma doesn't need to have such a strategy because humans, in their natural states (highly social group Mammal, who like to live in relatively close proximity to one another and come into contact with other members of the species on frequent occasions) do all the hard work for them.


Next I'll be awaiting Katman's theory on how the Hospice Care/Private Rest home system in NZ is making people become Old so they need assistance, or that Funeral directors are making people die to increase profits.

(hint - that is the EXACT same argument you are using, and it is equally retarded)

[Katman]

[awa355]

Just to throw something slightly different into the mix, Why don't animals get the huge array of illnesses that humans do?. You never learn of domestic or feral animals getting the volume of disease's, (cancer's, respiratory, skin, joint, muscle, nerve ailments, mental conditions) that afflict people.

Maybe it's because they simply live within their natural world. Did people ever give a toss about kennel cough or cat flu, before the vets came along?.

[Katman]

Just to throw something slightly different into the mix, Why don't animals get the huge array of illnesses that humans do?. You never learn of domestic or feral animals getting the volume of disease's, (cancer's, respiratory, skin, joint, muscle, nerve ailments, mental conditions) that afflict people.

For a start......

http://www.healthline.com/health-new...eruse-031114#2

http://consumersunion.org/news/the-o...blic-health-2/

[Katman]

And the pharmaceutical industry knows that as we build up a greater resistance to the antibiotics that they produce, we'll be reliant on them developing new antibiotics.

Sounds like a perfect money making system.

[rambaldi]

And the pharmaceutical industry knows that as we build up a greater resistance to the antibiotics that they produce, we'll be reliant on them developing new antibiotics.

Sounds like a perfect money making system.

Except those antibiotics take more and more money to develop and they don't make an awful lot on them. A few companies have moved out of the area due to the increase in costs. We should be making as careful use of the ones we have as we can.

[husaberg]

Just to throw something slightly different into the mix, Why don't animals get the huge array of illnesses that humans do?. You never learn of domestic or feral animals getting the volume of disease's, (cancer's, respiratory, skin, joint, muscle, nerve ailments, mental conditions) that afflict people.

Maybe it's because they simply live within their natural world. Did people ever give a toss about kennel cough or cat flu, before the vets came along?.

Animals get all of those diseases.
If you had either watched a unvaccinated yet formally incredibly healthy looking sheep die of a clostridial infection such as tetanus, pulp kidney Black leg etc. The agony in which they go through prior to death with there convulsions and muscle spasms , I sincerely doubt anyone would avoid vaccinating their child.
(Other than Katman who of course has no children or any logic when it comes to his conspiracy religion)
of course its not such a widespread problem because of the 5 and 7 in one vbacines that are used by professional farmers.
It is extremely widespread still on lifestyle and hobby farmers due to a lack of education and ignorance.

[Katman]

Except those antibiotics take more and more money to develop and they don't make an awful lot on them. A few companies have moved out of the area due to the increase in costs. We should be making as careful use of the ones we have as we can.

That's ok - they'll just make them really, really expensive.

[Katman]

Animals get all of those diseases.
If you had either watched a unvaccinated yet formally incredibly healthy looking sheep die of a clostridial infection such as tetanus, pulp kidney Black leg etc. The agony in which they go through prior to death with there convulsions and muscle spasms , I sincerely doubt anyone would avoid vaccinating their child.
(Other than Katman who of course has no children or any logic when it comes to his conspiracy religion)

Have you ever wondered why there is considerably less animal disease on organic farms?

[PrincessBandit]

If everyone suddenly became healthy it wouldn't bode well for the prescription drug pushers, would it?

or the diet companies