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Thread: Sooo, does it live up to the hype (Star Wars: The Force Awakens)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Ahh, speed reading. Like normal reading but without the comprehension.

    Or, as seems evident in your case Dyno-Dave, remedial reading at "normal" speed..

    Star Wars is ludicrously dumbed-down, to the point of incoherence - as evidently suits those who aspire to "normal" levels of "comprehension".

    ( & of course, the X-fighter canyon attack on the D-star shown in the original movie - was a fairly blatant crib from 'The Dambusters'..

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    The original movie stands up in memory because the imagery was ground breaking for the time.

    The story is nothing new, totally unoriginal (it's a fucking princess, bad boy rescue fairy tale for Christs sake - The Force is no more that old time 'magic' from a thousand previous stories). The story line is a rip off of a rip off.

    As I started - the detail, sound and visual delights of the original, in it's day were impressive and burnt itself into my youthful (and corresponding ageing) mind. But the ha-do surrounding the waffle that came in the 'later' movies is unjustified - from a current time young persons point of view there was nothing stunning or ground breaking in a similar manner to the original to justify their box office income. Indeed I'd go as far as to say until the current release the income and hype has been based on expectations of what the latest movie is - a revisit of the original with original characters - the hype being mainly derived by old farts like me who were wowed as a teen by movie one, introduced their kids to it and made them suffer through five or so average efforts.

    I will also appoligise for what appears to be a coherent, well thought out statement above - I will revert back to my usual KB waffle on future posts.

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    Star Wars spoiler:

    Once everybody finds out they are delicious, the Ewoks are hunted to extinction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    I will revert back to my usual KB waffle on future posts.
    Thank goodness for that...........(nice review by the way)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    Well, kinda. You do mean "Green screen" not blue though, right?
    No. Blue screen.

    The original was filmed with blue neutral background so that the SFX could be added in afterwards.
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    Forgot to add this...

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    it was a night out worth having.What else are you gonna do with 22 bucks.I enjoy the movies,the atmosphere,sound,popcorn and icecream is much much better than home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWST? View Post
    it was a night out worth having.What else are you gonna do with 22 bucks.I enjoy the movies,the atmosphere,sound,popcorn and icecream is much much better than home.
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    Those who went to this film expecting to see an intelligent, ground-breaking piece of cinema: its Star Wars, ok? Lighten up.

    Personally I didn't mind seeing what was more or less a reworked version of the original, it was like a cleansing of the palette after the dross (sorry Liam, Ewan and Natalie, you did your best) that was the prequels. I think it sets the stage for the films to come.

    I know the effects were probably what carried the original back in '77, but I think people underestimate how big a part the characters (and especially the humour between them) played in it's success, and that was what carried the trilogy successfully (despite the Ewoks) through to Return of the Jedi.

    In fact I'd say Firefly (and the Serenity movie, which was horribly condensed but better than nothing) is a direct descendant of the original trilogy in this regard, only taken to a vastly higher level.

    And 2001 rocks! Still love that movie, sure some acts are a bit tedious, but the HAL one is nothing short of brilliant; and the ending still gives me chills.

    Plus I had vouchers, so it was free for me .
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    I enjoyed it.

    I will be seeing the next one when it comes out.

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    However - there are things that I'm a touch disappointed about.

    As everyone else had said - It's a New Hope re-hashed - I wish they had done more with it.
    Ray is a bit of a Mary Sue learning Advanced Force techniques with no training, Mastering a LightSabre to beat a Sith with no training. I could somewhat look past Fin's ability to master the LightSabre on account that he was a StormTrooper and there is a slight possibility of them doing close combat/sword like training - even though that is also unlikely - however Fin brings me to the next point.
    Fin - now before people start throwing the Race Card - I think the guy that played him did Awesome, and I am excited to see him in the next 2 movies - however having someone who is Black in the First Order/Empire misses an entire point that was made in the first films - everyone in the Empire was white males, and of European descent, with Clean black Uniforms - They were Space Nazis! This was to highlight just how Totalitarian, Xenophobic, Uncompromising and Evil the Empire was, Especially when compared to the Rebellion which was all inclusive. Having a Black StormTrooper kinda defeats this imagery.
    Then there is a StormTrooper breaking their conditioning - while interesting, it undermines the terror of the StormTrooper - that they are effectively mindless automata - following orders no matter how evil they are. To have a StormTrooper break this conditioning makes them less scary.
    And Han died Many a Manly Tear was Shed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.A.W. View Post
    the X-fighter canyon attack on the D-star shown in the original movie - was a fairly blatant crib from 'The Dambusters'..
    isnt the P Jackson version Dambusters coming out soon?

    The original SW movie was enough tech, bangs, bright lights, fast moving plot to keep most people attentive. Didn't matter that the plot was thin etc, people wanted an escape into a different world/time when they goto the movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    Eeeek,
    What did you think of the movie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldog View Post
    What did you think of the movie?
    I enjoyed it and want to see it again. I knew Han Solo was going to croak and believe Harrison Ford only agreed to do it if his character was killed off. In the books he dies saving Luke and Chewie, I believe, in Return of the Jedi so he aleady was on borrowed time.

    I always liked R2D2 but adore BB8!! I soooooo want one of those!

    Sure it was basically a rehash of IV, and how in the hell did Leia and Han produce Mr Perfect Wavy Locks (when in reality it should have been dreaded helmet hair), BUT it does build the expectation and anticipation of what is to come. I think they'll be considerably more satisfying than the dreadful I, II and III (oh III was ok). (And I still suspect the evil Emporer might have somehow survived in Return of the Jedi...)
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    Seen it and ...IMHO...meh. Each to their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    Eeeek, I must stop speed reading (above is what I saw in your post until I went back for a second look)
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    George sold Lucasfilm (the owner of STAR WARS) to Disney for FOUR BILLION AMERICAN DOLLARS in cash and stock.

    So Disney needs to get its money back therefore Star Wars ad nauseam. They will not see $1 more of my money though.
    One of the first things they did was cancel The Clone Wars too, bastards. I'll still watch em though as there isn't enough other sci-fi out there to otherwise be entertained with.

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