Got side-swiped on the motorway

[swbarnett]

Lane splitting (we all do it) is arguably one of the riskiest things riders do.

Speak for yourself. I lane-split partly because it's a damn sight safer than staying inline with the traffic^*. If done properly can be safe at almost any speed as long as the speed differential between rider and traffic doesn't get out of control.

Take a look at the following experience from California (lane-splitting is illegal in Texas and Florida):

• California, when compared to Texas and Florida, has a 30% REDUCED rate of rear-end collision deaths for motorcyclists because they have Lane Splitting.
• A University of California - Berkeley study showed that Lane Splitting is safe if done at speeds of 50 mph or less and if motorcyclists do not exceed the speed of other vehicles by more than 15 mph. Speed differentials up to 15 mph were not associated with changes in the frequency of injury; and
• Compared to riders who were not splitting lanes, lane-splitting motorcyclists were markedly less likely to suffer head injury (9% vs. 17%), torso injury (19% vs. 29%) or fatal injury (1.2% vs. 3%); Lane-splitting riders were significantly less likely to be rear-ended than non-lane-splitting riders (2.6% vs. 4.6%).

The full article this is from is here.



^*It is true, however that a number of bikers do split in a dangerous fassion.

[J.A.W.]

You called sir.......???

Get stuck in, me old mucker..

But be advised, the self-described 'Princess' acts like she's got a few 'undred weight of bleedin' clunge up, in 'er, ah, favour..

[jonnyk5614]

Should point out - my first year of biking, I didn't lane split. No end of people randomly appearing in my lane with my taking evasive action.

Since then, two years splitting - never an issue till Wednesday evening.

The reality is, it is safer. Keep the speed differential down (I do - no more than 10/15kph) and stay very alert.

When you lane-split, you are in someone's mirror when you are 5 car lengths back and never stop being there.

Ride in line with traffic, you are never in the mirror!

The guy never fucking looked




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[Katman]

The guy never fucking looked

You're the only one that gives a fuck.

[AllanB]

The guy never fucking looked

For you....lane splitting in a area cars drivers would never expect to have to EVER look. It is really simple - if you are lane splitting it is your fucking job to be on the look out.


I have no issue with it being done safely - I have a issue with posts like yours crying fowl after you made the choice ....

[PrincessBandit]

Speak for yourself. I lane-split partly because it's a damn sight safer than staying inline with the traffic^*. If done properly can be safe at almost any speed as long as the speed differential between rider and traffic doesn't get out of control.

Take a look at the following experience from California (lane-splitting is illegal in Texas and Florida):


The full article this is from is here.



^*It is true, however that a number of biker do split in a dangerous fassion.

Like I said ARGUABLY. I'm not going to insult your comprehension but given that you qualify your post with as long as the speed differential between rider and traffic doesn't get out of control. therein lies many a problem. I've never met with any driver - of car or truck - who has squeezed me out of space while splitting, but many here can attest to it being an issue for them. As for choosing to remain in my own lane, I ride in line with the right hand wheels of the car in front of me and keep myself as visible as possible. Obviously that is irrelevant for a daydreaming driver whose brain is not engaged with operating a potentially lethal weapon; but then it's up to me to ensure my own safety as much as possible.

Oh, and going by the piccy at the top of that article you provided the link for, if motorcyclists all had that width (almost a half a lane width) left by other motorists to split in then we'd be pretty damned privileged!

[BuzzardNZ]

Least I do it on a clean bike....

dude, if I choose to clean my bike I can. Can you clean your own filthy fat self up as easily? I doubt it kunt Good luck with that.

[TheDemonLord]

For you....lane splitting in a area cars drivers would never expect to have to EVER look. It is really simple - if you are lane splitting it is your fucking job to be on the look out.


I have no issue with it being done safely - I have a issue with posts like yours crying fowl after you made the choice ....

Exactly what I was thinking.

[PrincessBandit]

.......... It is really simple - if you are lane splitting it is your fucking job to be on the look out.


.......... I have a issue with posts like yours crying fowl after you made the choice ....

bahkaaaaah!!


Btw, if JAW continues farting out of his oversized JAWbum, as he is so prone to do here, I'll have to find my box of matches to get rid of the stench.

[swbarnett]

Like I said ARGUABLY. I'm not going to insult your comprehension but given that you qualify your post with as long as the speed differential between rider and traffic doesn't get out of control. therein lies many a problem. I've never met with any driver - of car or truck - who has squeezed me out of space while splitting, but many here can attest to it being an issue for them. As for choosing to remain in my own lane, I ride in line with the right hand wheels of the car in front of me and keep myself as visible as possible. Obviously that is irrelevant for a daydreaming driver whose brain is not engaged with operating a potentially lethal weapon; but then it's up to me to ensure my own safety as much as possible.

Oh, and going by the piccy at the top of that article you provided the link for, if motorcyclists all had that width (almost a half a lane width) left by other motorists to split in then we'd be pretty damned privileged!

Sounds to me like we're actually in agreement. Lane-splitting can be dangerous if disrespected but is otherwise safe. Pretty much like anything else we do on a bike.

[Laava]

bahkaaaaah!!


Btw, if JAW continues farting out of his oversized JAWbum, as he is so prone to do here, I'll have to find my box of matches to get rid of the stench.

You gonna put the lil retard on bobo nappy watch and approve all his posts again? He never learns!

[J.A.W.]

You gonna put the lil retard on bobo nappy watch and approve all his posts again? He never learns!

Referring to yourself in the 3rd person nowadays, Rattus? Shameful..

As for 'Princess Brute-Squad' sure, she's plenty tough - when she gets to deal to people, & abuse/hide behind/power trip - via - her mod privileges.. how typical that such double standards.. appear to be simply, par-for-the-course..

[FJRider]

Since then, two years splitting - never an issue till Wednesday evening.

The reality is, it is safer. Keep the speed differential down (I do - no more than 10/15kph) and stay very alert.

When you lane-split, you are in someone's mirror when you are 5 car lengths back and never stop being there.

Ride in line with traffic, you are never in the mirror!

The guy never fucking looked

There will never be an issue until somebody does something you don't expect. Or YOU do something THEY don't expect.

Reality is ... a car driver wont feel your pain if they hit you. Most wont even care that they hit you. Did you just learn the "Alert" bit .. ???

If you can see the driver in THEIR mirror ... they will see you. IF ... THEY look.

Air horns get their attention.

He may look a bit harder in future ... then again ... maybe not.

[Swoop]

Like I said, with the number of people splitting up there you would think that most drivers would be aware of motorbikes coming through but then some are oblivious and always will be.

Sadly there are two problems in D'Auckland.
1: Soft-cocks who park their bike during the "chilly months", meaning less bikes = less awareness of them by tin-tops.
2: Serious amounts of road works on the mutterways. The amount of bikes sitting in traffic (WTF is with that?) when they could be pootling along quite merrily between tin-tops.

...if JAW continues farting out of his oversized JAWbum, as he is so prone to do here, I'll have to find my box of matches to get rid of the stench.

Get with the programme. The gob-shite from the land of the giant-jumping-rat is thicker than a mental patient wearing a tinfoil-hat!

He never learns!

True. So very true.

[J.A.W.]

Swoppy goes on..

& its yet more bullshit.. from yet another Pomgolian pontificator..

Lame. So very lame..


The O.P. has to make the perp pay, or eat shit.. simple as that..