Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement

[Katman]

The people I saw today were all healthy looking ( and employable looking , I guess ) why were they off work ?

Because protesting from their office desk probably wouldn't have had the same impact.

No way I could get time off to barefoot it up Queen St with a placard I made last night and look stupid wasting my time in front of a TV camera.

My boss would fire me on the spot ....

Are you pissed off that you used up all your annual leave over Xmas?

[Brian d marge]

Lol. And therein lies the problem. You should've read as much about it as you could've before it was too late.

That was how the game was played
Basically nothing until the day before
Details released in dribs and drabs so not really news worthy
Then kapow signed ....

The totally brainwashed sheep have no chance ....uncle Herman , Germany's model train set enthusiast said how easy it was to move sheep ....,I'm surprised at A. How easy it is and B. How deeply the sheep believe ....
You could tell them anything ... And the Moran's would swallow it hook line and sinker

Anyway all moot now ..has been signed , as I said it would be. So unless a major player has a fit ...

Ya got the shonkey donkey and lost ya state houses and the Chinese now own half ya country etc ya got that through doing nowt

Now let a real gorilla take ya all from behind .... Again by doing nowt

Actually I've just found a you tube video explaining the TPPA , hope this helps

https://youtu.be/u-KJWz-5n0g


No wonder they signed it in NZud

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[Brian d marge]

So they should all wear suits and wear placards saying that they're miffed at TPPA, and that a secret court gets to decide where taxpayer money goes when the country decides that it doesn't want what someone is selling, but is told by a court it must import it and sell it anyway? Other than being one hell of a mouthful, it won't really fit on a placard very well... and would also hide the suit.

Hey watch the language
Last time the English were miffed,ever so slightly I must add, was with those naughty jermans a few years back

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[Brian d marge]

What about the two years that Helen Clark didn't go?

Same shit / paymaster. Different color tie



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[Akzle]

Same shit / paymaster. Different color tie



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bigger balls, too.

[oldrider]

Actually I've just found a you tube video explaining the TPPA , hope this helps

https://youtu.be/u-KJWz-5n0g


No wonder they signed it in NZud

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Yep - just listened to that clip and to be perfectly honest I learned more from that than I have from the government on the subject!

[JATZ]

Yep - just listened to that clip and to be perfectly honest I learned more from that than I have from the government on the subject!

So tell me...... What are we supposed to do ??

Protest ? yeah, like that does any good
Vote them out ? so the next pack of wankers can do the same thing ?
Kill someone/lots of people/revolt ? you lead, I'll follow

Seriously, there's fuck all you can do when the people someone elected decide to do something.

[Akzle]

you lead, I'll follow

and therein lies the problem

[gjm]

What about the two years that Helen Clark didn't go?

In 2000 there was a threat to her safety. Her non-attendance then and in 2004 was related to Maori (Maaori) challenges as to her right to speak because she is a woman. (I know - there are those who might disagree...)

John Key has announced he's not going in order to avoid embarrassment when he could be refused admission. More self-serving aggrandisement.

[Madness]

Akzle for Governor General.

[JATZ]

and therein lies the problem

Yip

However, I enjoy my freedom. Loosing that just doesn't do it for me. Which is the inevitable consequence of putting a bullet in someone. However.... you go right ahead champ, I'll send some cookies to your cell

[Akzle]

Akzle for *king

fify .

[mashman]

So tell me...... What are we supposed to do ??

Run to the hills and hide

Akzle for Governor General.

PM.

[mashman]

Hey watch the language
Last time the English were miffed,ever so slightly I must add, was with those naughty jermans a few years back

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Maggie was a chairman?

[gjm]

Yep - just listened to that clip and to be perfectly honest I learned more from that than I have from the government on the subject!

Yup - the NZ government has very carefully avoided telling anyone anything meaningful. Damn... We might form an opinion of our own! That would never do.

So tell me...... What are we supposed to do ??

Protest ? yeah, like that does any good
Vote them out ? so the next pack of wankers can do the same thing ?
Kill someone/lots of people/revolt ? you lead, I'll follow

Seriously, there's fuck all you can do when the people someone elected decide to do something.

There's the problem, and I'm as guilty as anyone else. The government has the media mouthpiece - how is anyone going to make a dent in policy while nothing they say is heard? Public protest is a start, but it'll not get the airtime that the signing will. We could ask questions, but who will we ask? Prompt a media presenter and your questions aren't asked.

The only ones who might be able to turn this around are Winston and a coalition of non-National parties, but they're all too far up their own arses to get together and sort anything out. Jane Kelsey has tried, in her position as one of the most experienced and qualified people in this field, and has been smeared, belittled and laughed at by John Key. Because Key has the media attention and Kelsey doesn't, he gets more airtime and representation, leading the public to believe he is right.

OK - the question stands.

What do we do?