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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    And one would have to conclude the report is a complete whitewash to cover arses.
    Then one has to question WHY ...........
    Why? because it appears you are utterly convinced that he must be innocent and thus any evidence to the contrary must therefor be fabricated.



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Why? because it appears you are utterly convinced that he must be innocent and thus any evidence to the contrary must therefor be fabricated.
    Apart from the obvious which is Scott was convicted by a jury of his peers please point me to any evidence that Scott Watson even saw let alone met Ben and Olivia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Apart from the obvious which is Scott was convicted by a jury of his peers please point me to any evidence that Scott Watson even saw let alone met Ben and Olivia.
    That is the obvious elephant in your room,
    This I construe is why you have avoided my questions.
    Unfortunately, it is you, rather than me need to disprove what has already been proven in court already, something that was also already proven in numerous appeals.
    The burden of proof was on the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt his guilt, This is something they already have done.
    The path you are attempting to lead me down, is actually what you already have accused the police of, Starting with a presumption of guilt (or in this case innocence) rather than letting the provable facts lead to the obvious conclusion.
    This is why you allude to planted evidence ,police corruption and legal whitewashing. You have to allude to this, as you have no actual evidence to back what you believe.

    That aside. In real life police and prosecution have to put it all together using hypothesis without know all the details that the killer does.
    They have to piece together all the details and witness testimony they can't be expected to get everything 100% right first time, with what they have to work with.
    In real life things details witness recollections of events don't always fit 100% with what occurred.
    It is the defences job to create any possible doubt to try and get the defendant off while at the same withholding evidence that might hurt the defence.



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    That is the obvious elephant in your room,
    This I construe is why you avoided my question.
    Unfortunately it is you rather than me need to disprove what has already been proven in court already, something that was also proven in numerous appeals The burden of proof was on the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, they already did.
    The path you are attempting to lead me down is what you already have accused the police of, Starting with a presumption of guilt or in this case innocence rather than letting the provable facts lead to the obvious conclusion.
    I am not attempting to lead you down any path. However there have been many cases in NZ where people have been wrongly convicted. FACT. I just happen to believe this is just one of the cases after researching it
    Ian Wisharts latest book raises more questions than it answers.
    3 witnesses aboard the Niad that picked Ben and Olivia up from Tamarack made statements they were dropped off to approx 40 ft wooden ketch.
    Witnesses on the 2 other vessels Blade was rafted to made statements he arrived back alone.
    John Mullen filling in for his son on the water taxi made a statement he dropped a man matching Scotts description back to his boat as the sole passenger .
    52 people contributed to the artists impression of the mystery ketch to date unidentified. Were they all mistaken ??
    Many more reported its existance but were informed the police were no longer looking for a ketch once Pope came on the scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Why? because it appears you are utterly convinced that he must be innocent and thus any evidence to the contrary must therefor be fabricated.
    altho your question is not aimed at me here is my thoughts...
    most importantly how the fuck can you convict a person of murder when there are no body's??? the boat the pair bordered from the water taxi required a ladder to grt on deck (the blade sits near to water level in comparison) any one in chch can see the boat in Puro harbor for them selves.
    For all we know the larger boat they bordered headed for Aussie were they both 'live'

    No altho I support watsons inersince I am open to the fact he may or may not have murdered
    My old man lived in the sounds at the time, he knew watson he had stayed near by he had broken in and robed places near by in my Dads words hes a 'shit head' but doubts highly he is a murder.

    A old riding buddy is watsons brother, he didnt associate with scott much there lived worlds apart, but he and his wife under no circumstances believe scott is guility to the point this web site they built up and run http://www.freescottwatson.org/

    Theres way to much bull shit from the ground up to the top ranks... it does not line up nor make sense, I think there is a high chance of people being paid off and all I hope is as they reach their death beds they come clean.

    You can not find some one guilty of murder with no bodys or proff of death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    I am not attempting to lead you down any path.
    No but husaberg will relentlessly try to steer you down his/her (whatever) own narrow path of normalcy and unquestioning compliance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    I am not attempting to lead you down any path. However there have been many cases in NZ where people have been wrongly convicted. FACT. I just happen to believe this is just one of the cases after researching it
    Ian Wisharts latest book raises more questions than it answers.
    3 witnesses aboard the Niad that picked Ben and Olivia up from Tamarack made statements they were dropped off to approx 40 ft wooden ketch.
    Witnesses on the 2 other vessels Blade was rafted to made statements he arrived back alone.
    John Mullen filling in for his son on the water taxi made a statement he dropped a man matching Scotts description back to his boat as the sole passenger .
    52 people contributed to the artists impression of the mystery ketch to date unidentified. Were they all mistaken ??
    Many more reported its existance but were informed the police were no longer looking for a ketch once Pope came on the scene.
    Yet there are far more cases where people have been wrongly found innocent likely by a factor of ten.
    All the cases that were found to be wrongly convicted were eventually proven by facts.
    The Watson case has not, on the contrary the very same legal system has found Watsons murder convictions to be just. time and time again.
    Three witness also gave vastly differing locations of the boat the water taxi driver in fact changed the definitive location 5 times.
    Wallace said in court under oath that he was pretty definite that it was Watson, he later changed his mind.
    John Mullians time frame of when he dropped off a lone Scott, while it may have happened, doesn't fit with when he was seen back at the lodge by multiple witnesses who actually knew him.
    Unless of coarse he took two trips to the lodge which was a hypothesis raised by the prosecution.

    Fact Scott is a diagnosed psychopath. On how many of his 50 convictions do you think he actually plead guilty.
    Contrast this with Pope who as a policeman who spent his whole life under public scrutiny.
    Its a long bow to draw that because people seen a boat that Scott must be innocent.


    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous View Post
    altho your question is not aimed at me here is my thoughts...
    most importantly how the fuck can you convict a person of murder when there are no body's??? the boat the pair bordered from the water taxi required a ladder to grt on deck (the blade sits near to water level in comparison) any one in chch can see the boat in Puro harbor for them selves.
    For all we know the larger boat they bordered headed for Aussie were they both 'live'

    No altho I support watsons inersince I am open to the fact he may or may not have murdered
    My old man lived in the sounds at the time, he knew watson he had stayed near by he had broken in and robed places near by in my Dads words hes a 'shit head' but doubts highly he is a murder.

    A old riding buddy is watsons brother, he didnt associate with scott much there lived worlds apart, but he and his wife under no circumstances believe scott is guility to the point this web site they built up and run http://www.freescottwatson.org/

    Theres way to much bull shit from the ground up to the top ranks... it does not line up nor make sense, I think there is a high chance of people being paid off and all I hope is as they reach their death beds they come clean.

    You can not find some one guilty of murder with no bodys or proff of death.
    Yet none of this actually proves he is innocent.
    Multiple people have been convicted in absence of a body, including another one this year.
    Are you suggesting that as long as a body is never found no one can be convicted of murder.
    It would be pretty easy to prove the police were paid off of the police paid off people, its easy for you to say, but do you have any actual evidence to support it?
    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    No but husaberg will relentlessly try to steer you down his/her (whatever) own narrow path of normalcy and unquestioning compliance!
    Golly that's funny this is from the guy that posts unsolicited Hitler era rants about Jew world domination all over KB



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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous View Post
    altho your question is not aimed at me here is my thoughts...
    most importantly how the fuck can you convict a person of murder when there are no body's??? the boat the pair bordered from the water taxi required a ladder to grt on deck (the blade sits near to water level in comparison) any one in chch can see the boat in Puro harbor for them selves.
    For all we know the larger boat they bordered headed for Aussie were they both 'live'

    .
    This be how Morrisey described what he saw when he held on to a yacht while B&O & mystery man climbed aboard

    “When I grabbed the railing I had to look up a distance of about a foot to see the deck. The side of the boat was white near the deck and I noticed that there was another colour, a darker colour underneath that. It was a stripe a bit wider than the top white bit. Underneath that was white again.
    The darker colour stripe was a bit higher than the sides of the Naiad when it was next to the boat"

    Watson`s little yacht has sod all free board and is much the same height as the pontoons on the Naiad.

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    The fact is, I believe Watson to be as guilty as fuck. But the OTHER fact is, I also believe he was as unlucky as fuck to go down for it. The whole case stinks. Another police balls up, just like Lundies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    -Yet none of this actually proves he is innocent.
    -Multiple people have been convicted in absence of a body, including another one this year.
    -Are you suggesting that as long as a body is never found no one can be convicted of murder.
    -It would be pretty easy to prove the police were paid off of the police paid off people, its easy for you to say, but do you have any actual evidence to support it?
    - agree hence why I said may or may not have
    - your point?
    - well DUH... if there is no proof and the accused says hes/shes NOT GUILTY how the fuck can ya, if there is proof like a video and or the acussed says GUILITY then of farking coarse
    - easy??? i doubt it top secret and all hush hush, no one pipes up and says "i paid em off" do they.

    My concern is Im seen hassling the hus a berg here ... then he goes missing and asumed dead, people say HE DID IT (pointing at me) fark I was last to give ya shit... Im in jail and your in the barharmers doing laps on ya bucket.
    cheers DD
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous View Post
    My concern is Im seen hassling the hus a berg here ... then he goes missing and asumed dead, people say HE DID IT (pointing at me) fark I was last to give ya shit... Im in jail and your in the barharmers doing laps on ya bucket.
    Fuck it.

    You should give it a go anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous View Post
    altho your question is not aimed at me here is my thoughts...
    most importantly how the fuck can you convict a person of murder when there are no body's??? Theres way to much bull shit from the ground up to the top ranks... it does not line up nor make sense, I think there is a high chance of people being paid off and all I hope is as they reach their death beds they come clean.

    You can not find some one guilty of murder with no bodys or proff of death.
    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous View Post
    - agree hence why I said may or may not have
    - your point?
    - well DUH... if there is no proof and the accused says hes/shes NOT GUILTY how the fuck can ya, if there is proof like a video and or the acussed says GUILITY then of farking coarse
    - easy??? i doubt it top secret and all hush hush, no one pipes up and says "i paid em off" do they.

    My concern is Im seen hassling the hus a berg here ... then he goes missing and asumed dead, people say HE DID IT (pointing at me) fark I was last to give ya shit... Im in jail and your in the barharmers doing laps on ya bucket.
    The absence of a body makes it harder to prove guilt yet, Scott was still was proven guilty. By a jury no less.
    As I said another person was proven guilty this year without a body, or proper confession (note there was a secret witness confession) or pleading guilty. No videos
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-dail...ourt-told.html
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-dail...illing-his-son
    As for easy I don't think a massive cover up and planting evidence is that easy at all to many people would have to be in on it. The more that are in on it the less likely chance it has of remaining a secret
    IMO far too much to loose to little to gain.
    You are fairly safe, I don't think you have it in ya.
    But if they found my dead body covered in Semen and Nazi memorabilia the finger would be pointed squarely at Katman.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous View Post
    -.. Im in jail and your in the barharmers doing laps on ya bucket.
    He'd have to have one that goes first
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    He'd have to have one that goes first
    Just exactly how many pieces is that ugly peanut tanked Gn in at the moment.
    I actually co-incidentally worked on the Afrillia today a little bit



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Just exactly how many pieces is that ugly peanut tanked Gn in at the moment.
    I actually co-incidentally worked on the Afrillia today a little bit
    Forks are out and exhaust is off, 10 minutes and it's back up and running
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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