MotoGP 2016

[carbonhed]

Wasn't in the race though! Poor bastard was running well. You could see how stable his bike was compared to Pedrosa when he passed him. Not looking good for Dani! His team needs to knuckle down



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Redding was riding away from Pedrosa 5 laps from the flag when his bike stopped. Look how that turned out for Pedro :-)

At what point in his career did Rossi start settling for fourth in a three way battle for second? Because that's just where he's at at the moment. The other top guys are starting to kick him around.

[Dadpole]

At what point in his career did Rossi start settling for fourth in a three way battle for second?

Looked to me to be the sensible option at the time. Sit there and hope for a mistake and running wide from one of the others . That was always on the cards the way they were going for it. Fourth is always better than a DNF, especially since he knew arch-rival Lorenzo was out and MM was uncatchable.

[roogazza]

I reckon they should kick Argentina to the kerb,but I see they've got a race there for the next 3 years ??

Dirty track that produces crashes,its not even used much by the looks?
Must have someone pulling strings or pumping money into it surely.

and ,every time the powers that be start introducing fucking pit stops the result is a fuckup !
Lets not turn Motogp into F1 for gods sake ?

Rossi was looking dangerous until the pit stop and second bike,then it was just up to luck,which happened as the Ducks went down and gave him two positions.

[Autech]

I reckon they should kick Argentina to the kerb,but I see they've got a race there for the next 3 years ??

Dirty track that produces crashes,its not even used much by the looks?
Must have someone pulling strings or pumping money into it surely.

I noticed when I went to the Bathurst 12 hour race a few months back that every morning they were running a few street sweeping trucks around the track at 4am every morning before the racing kicked off. That was for GT3 cars who have no risk of breaking their necks if their car slides slightly on the track.
Not sure if they do this for the motogp and how it would effect the rubber laid down on the track, but a dirty dusty track is not acceptable for the pinnacle of our sport.

[Autech]

Redding was riding away from Pedrosa 5 laps from the flag when his bike stopped. Look how that turned out for Pedro :-)

Yup there is something to be said for someone who recognises that they aren't competitive so just bring it home. I think he would have been further up if it wasn't for that Italian looney knocking him wide.

My prediction for the race starts has been true thus far, that's two races that Pedro has launched the shit out of that bike and got it ahead of a few bikes off the line.

[Moise]

I reckon they should kick Argentina to the kerb,but I see they've got a race there for the next 3 years ??

Dirty track that produces crashes,its not even used much by the looks?
Must have someone pulling strings or pumping money into it surely.

and ,every time the powers that be start introducing fucking pit stops the result is a fuckup !
Lets not turn Motogp into F1 for gods sake ?

Rossi was looking dangerous until the pit stop and second bike,then it was just up to luck,which happened as the Duc went down and gave him two positions.

There hadn't been a race since December. I watched the start of P1, there were almost rooster tails of dust on some parts of the track. Maybe they'll hire some road sweepers the week before next year's race.

I like the track though, decent, fast corners which makes a change from some of the small Euro tracks. The Rossi fans seemed even louder than in Europe.

Apparently Michelin did almost no testing there because it rained when they had Colin Edwards at the track. Given it's probably the second hardest track on tyres, you'd think they could have rescheduled. I might pass on PI this year, I can see a repeat of the 2013 fiasco happening.

[pritch]

Dirty track that produces crashes,its not even used much by the looks?

Apparently it's a brilliant track that sorts the men from the boys much as Phillip Island does. Problem is that it's miles from anywhere. To paraphrase the movie "Field Of Dreams", it was built but they didn't come. They could sweep it, and that might help, but the track would still be green.

The compulsory pit stop is a fuck up. It ruined Rossi's race and it's dangerous, one pit crew member was hit by a bike. If the tyre manufacturer can't guarantee the tyres will last the race distance though they have to do something.

[sugilite:Me]

At what point in his career did Rossi start settling for fourth in a three way battle for second? Because that's just where he's at at the moment. The other top guys are starting to kick him around.

It looked to me like Rossi would of won the race had it not been a bullshit two part Michelin fuckup. MM and JL are only one or two percent faster than VR at best imo.

[ellipsis]

It looked to me like Rossi would of won the race had it not been a bullshit two part Michelin fuckup. MM and JL are only one or two percent faster than VR at best imo.

...yes...It's a little difficult for some to either see or work that out...

[Badjelly]

Rossi's race was ruined by the fact that his second bike wasn't as fast as his first. I don't *like* pit stops, but if they occur then the teams need to cope with them. Rossi's team didn't, for whatever reason.

[Autech]

Rossi's race was ruined by the fact that his second bike wasn't as fast as his first. I don't *like* pit stops, but if they occur then the teams need to cope with them. Rossi's team didn't, for whatever reason.

Marquez also smashed out some risky and epic laps on his 2nd bike on not fully warm tyres. I'm picking he was at 100% for the first 4 laps of his 2nd stint which allowed him to gap Rossi, aided but another Spanish rider holding him up (hehehehehe, stoke the fire ).

I do wonder if Mitchies new minimum tyre pressure they introduced before the race fucked Pedrosa over too. They didn't say how much higher the pressure was but you do wonder as that has been one of his complaints over the years. If Redding is too heavy and overloads the tyres then the opposite must be true of Dani.

[Cosmik de Bris]

Rossi's race was ruined by the fact that his second bike wasn't as fast as his first. I don't *like* pit stops, but if they occur then the teams need to cope with them. Rossi's team didn't, for whatever reason.

If you look at Rossi's lap times you will see he was just as fast as the first bike, it was Marquez' bike that was faster, or he was riding better.

[carbonhed]

Marquez's second bike was his number 1 bike. That was his strategy. To use his less favourite bike first and try to control the first part of the race from the front. Which he achieved. Once he got on his favourite bike he put down the hammer and blew Rossi away.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Marquez's second bike was his number 1 bike. That was his strategy. To use his less favourite bike first and try to control the first part of the race from the front. Which he achieved. Once he got on his favourite bike he put down the hammer and blew Rossi away.

Correct. And all weekend, every single session, he was faster than Rossi. By a decent margin. Barring a get off from MM, it was always his race to lose.

[carbonhed]

Correct. And all weekend, every single session, he was faster than Rossi. By a decent margin. Barring a get off from MM, it was always his race to lose.

A quick and dirty calculation of Rossis fastest six laps from the first part of the race compared to the second shows that he was slower on his second bike by a massive one tenth of a second over the six laps. It just must have seemed like he was going slower because Marquez got so small and in the distance so fast.