Hilux v Ranger 4x4 double cab?

[RGVforme]

Having driven both extensively, ranger no contest. Hilux drives horribly and isnt a nice place to be, cheap interior etc, reliability is around the same both have faults though the hilux ive got at the moment is shaping up to be slightly less reliable than the ford was so far.

Rangers need to be comfy to sit in for long periods while waiting for the tow truck.

Cut away a dashboard from a wrecked Ranger once to access parts behind(was easier to do than spend 3 days removing the dash).....Found it made of glued paper mache once behind the flash covering.

Can't get much cheaper than that.

[Coldrider]

LS3 commy ute, what else can you buy for 50k that drives like a car and has 304kw.

[RGVforme]

LS3 commy ute, what else can you buy for 50k that drives like a car and has 304kw.

At least Toyota and Ford drivers still get laid after the buy though.... .

[Laava]

LS3 commy ute, what else can you buy for 50k that drives like a car and has 304kw.

What is it like in the sand?

Or with half a metre of builders mix and four adult passengers?
Not really in the same group I am looking in but thanks

[husaberg]

What is it like in the sand?

Or with half a metre of builders mix and four adult passengers?
Not really in the same group I am looking in but thanks

Have you ever seen a SSR Chev I only seen one the other day I had never even heard of them before, not really applicable either but a headturner if only just for its oddity value, it kind of looks to me like a FJ holden crossed with a Toyota Corolla.

They are 4wd anyway, a few seats short, left hook and out of production though

[Laava]

Have you ever seen a SSR Chev I only seen one the other day I had never even heard of them before, not really applicable either but a headturner if only just for its oddity value, it kind of looks to me like a FJ holden crossed with a Toyota Corolla.

They are 4wd anyway, a few seats short, left hook and out of production though

Reminds me of this.

[Coldrider]

What is it like in the sand?

Or with half a metre of builders mix and four adult passengers?
Not really in the same group I am looking in but thanks

we have inverted the leaf Springs on an 18 month old bt50 at work.

[Gremlin]

What is it like in the sand?

Or with half a metre of builders mix and four adult passengers?
Not really in the same group I am looking in but thanks

You should probably specify what you want it for, then more pros and cons could be evaluated.

[Laava]

You should probably specify what you want it for, then more pros and cons could be evaluated.

Yeah, good point, have tried to edit the title to say double cab.
Mostly building work with room for the kids in back at weekends. It will be or be made a flatdeck, steel not ali.

[Gremlin]

Title edited.

Not really what you're asking, but the flat deck does have pros and cons to well side, things like loading height, access to tray, blah blah.

Throwing it out there... a lot of builders go for utes (especially if you need to tow), but some also go for vans, kit out the rear etc... pros and cons every way you look

[Tazz]

Cool, this is the kind of feedback I am after. The Ranger tops all the shootouts pretty much but My mate just bought a hilux cos he says it is just nicer to drive. The Hilux is the slowest ute over 400m out of the top 8 sellers but seems to be trading heavily on its heritage. It is very nice to drive however and I still have to drive the ranger to compare.
My previous model lux, manual, has a too tall first gear, this is a common niggle. The new one still seems to have a tall first gear and sixth is made for autobahns only it seems?

New one still have the turning circle of a scud missile launcher?

[Laava]

Title edited.

Not really what you're asking, but the flat deck does have pros and cons to well side, things like loading height, access to tray, blah blah.

Throwing it out there... a lot of builders go for utes (especially if you need to tow), but some also go for vans, kit out the rear etc... pros and cons every way you look

Thanks, yep the flatdeck is considerably easier to get at things from the side, as well as being way bigger. Also much easier to set up a rack system that can take some serious weight without being so high you need a ladder to get to it.

New one still have the turning circle of a scud missile launcher?

Haha, yeah a big downside of the 4x4! The new one is better tho.

[neels]

Whatever you buy go auto, most of the manuals now have the engines detuned to prevent the above mentioned issues with shitting drivetrains, very noticable difference between the manual and auto hilux we have at work.

Otherwise, they all have their issues so drive them and see which one you like better.

It's a shame they don't still make the D22 Navaras, we were buying them at work as they still have a sensible deck height on the back, unlike the other enormous things that seem to be all that's available now.

[skippa1]

Have used both extensively off and on road. Both have their good points, Toyotas hold their value, are capable, less tow capacity and cost a lot for a more basic interior. Rangers manual box stinks, interior is nicer (my opinion) suspension hard when there is no load in it, price is good.
I like a manual box for serious off road so that was a real minus on the Ranger but I found overall the Ranger was a better package for me. Its very subjective.

I would go auto unless you are really serious off road and tackling steep terrain.

[Laava]

Bt50 v Ranger road test. Ranger win! Both were auto, the auto on the mazda seemed to be continuously on the hunt for the right gear. But it was the winner launching from the lights. Mazda made a funny noise trickling along on light throttle kinda like when you are driving beside a corrugated fence that is getting closer then moving away then closer again etc. Annoying. While at the dealership I spotted my mates ranger there and remembered it being there two days ago. I rang him and he told me it is there getting it's fuel pump replaced. For the second time. Has done just over 40,000km now and at 15,000 km it had the fuel tank topped up with petrol. That was immediately sorted so don't know if these failures are as a result.
Reversing camera is one of the best feature to have on a ute these days. One on the ranger is great.