Hilux v Ranger 4x4 double cab?

[Flip]

IMHO I woulden't touch a toyota these days with a 12 foot pole. Every fucking time one went back for injectors, water pump or gear box they always came back with waranty denied because the fuel was contaninated.

Well guess what, we used to go through 60,000 litres of diesel in a good day, all the fuel was filtered by a Valcon 0.5 micron coalessing filters (the same they load jet A1 through at the airport, not a Donaldson nappy filter) and was regually tested by IPL the lab at the NZ refinery for water and contamination. But every time waranty denied. The fucker and I have no other term for it, I had used to go through a set of injectors every 35-40k (at $4k a time) and was on its 2nd gearbox. We were loading fuel into hundreds of million dollar worth of mining vehicles and fuel quality was critical to the operation. We were not doing the QM for mr toyotas benefit, but the lab results really used to piss them off. When the POS were out of waranty we used to flick them on PDQ.

In hind sight my 25 year old V8 landrover was so much more reilyable that the toyotas because the fuel system was rubbish.

The company I work for today has about 400 BT50s, the manual gear boxes are a bit light, but other than that they are all good vehicles. The autos are better espcially for towing.

A fleet diesel v8 landcruiser went through the workshop the other day, $7,000 for a set of injectors at 50k. Guess what, its some body elses problem now and the driver got a nice new BT50 that is nicer to drive and costs a whole pile of cash less to maintain. The V8 was also actually slower on the road than my old V8 landy.

They were having troubles with cruiser diffs but that was before my time. Some of the problem was probably the tonne of tools and oil then hooning across a open cast mine.

[husaberg]

Reminds me of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YtAVIGq1ko&sns=em

Well you must be a heck of a lot older than me

[JimO]

IMHO I woulden't touch a toyota these days with a 12 foot pole. Every fucking time one went back for injectors, water pump or gear box they always came back with waranty denied because the fuel was contaninated.

Well guess what, we used to go through 60,000 litres of diesel in a good day, all the fuel was filtered by a Valcon 0.5 micron coalessing filters (the same they load jet A1 through at the airport, not a Donaldson nappy filter) and was regually tested by IPL the lab at the NZ refinery for water and contamination. But every time waranty denied. The fucker and I have no other term for it, I had used to go through a set of injectors every 35-40k (at $4k a time) and was on its 2nd gearbox. We were loading fuel into hundreds of million dollar worth of mining vehicles and fuel quality was critical to the operation. We were not doing the QM for mr toyotas benefit, but the lab results really used to piss them off. When the POS were out of waranty we used to flick them on PDQ.

In hind sight my 25 year old V8 landrover was so much more reilyable that the toyotas because the fuel system was rubbish.

The company I work for today has about 400 BT50s, the manual gear boxes are a bit light, but other than that they are all good vehicles. The autos are better espcially for towing.

A fleet diesel v8 landcruiser went through the workshop the other day, $7,000 for a set of injectors at 50k. Guess what, its some body elses problem now and the driver got a nice new BT50 that is nicer to drive and costs a whole pile of cash less to maintain. The V8 was also actually slower on the road than my old V8 landy.

They were having troubles with cruiser diffs but that was before my time. Some of the problem was probably the tonne of tools and oil then hooning across a open cast mine.

never had any issues with local toyota dealer, injectors replaced under warranty no problem, i take it you were at mcrays? funny how they still use hiluxes if they were as bad as you say i doubt they would

[Laava]

Well you must be a heck of a lot older than me

Oi! Play nice!

[Flip]

never had any issues with local toyota dealer, injectors replaced under warranty no problem, i take it you were at mcrays? funny how they still use hiluxes if they were as bad as you say i doubt they would

No Solid energy, had a hundred of the POS. They were all weak in the gear boxes, water pumps and fuel systems. It was the corporate office we had to deal with.

My experience is not based on hear say or anything a dealer reports, I have had to manage large fleets that compised of a few fords, a few Nissans, a few Bitsaremissing, lots of toyotas and even more Mazdabaters.

The best were actually the Bitsaremissing (but the numbers were statistically low) and the Mazda BT50s.

The one thing I can say the candle that burns twice a bright burns half as long. The fitters at work have a old Mazda (2000ish) hack ute that has done 560k, it has done a gear box and a head, but its still mostly the same motor.

[Laava]

Drove a Ranger manual today. Is a pretty good wagon and the gearbox ratios are well set up. It will pull from about 70 in top gear. The motor is very peaky tho (auto as well) and if you put your foot hard down it feels like it slows down as the revs climb. You would need to short shift it at about 2500rpm to stay in the fat of the power. The hilux manual box is much nicer to use esp with IMT switched on.

[Motu]

They have a light on the dash to tell you when to change gear. You got to be stupid to drive a car these days. I don't like these 6 speed manuals, I can never find reverse.

[Flip]

IMT,whats that mean?

[Laava]

They have a light on the dash to tell you when to change gear. You got to be stupid to drive a car these days. I don't like these 6 speed manuals, I can never find reverse.

There is a green arrow in the ranger to tell you when to change up. It is easily ignored. I didn't see one in the Hilux? There is a reverse lockout on the ford that works well but don't think the hilux has. The hilux box is much more car like.

IMT,whats that mean?

It is a rev matching thing. Sounds a bit wank but works well and would be awesome for people who don't know how or just don't rev match, esp on the downshift. It is switchable and low key.

[carver]

My wife has a new 2016 Ranger.
Its good, nice to drive, manual 2wd with diff lock.
I dont like the way a 2wd has such a high deck these days.
They also need a auto for perforance, as they have quite a bit of turbo lag.

At the last company i worked for, I had 2x D22 nissans.
1x S/C 4wd 3.0 Turbo and a D/C 4wd 3.0 Turbo.

They were good vehicles, solid build, basic and a bit noisy.
They replaced them with the D40, which preformed well, but were not so solid, and were kinda shit off road.

However, the cheap bastards were buying rollovers and getting the panelbeater down the road to fix em up.
Most of the rear doors dig not line up or shut properly!

The D23 looks to be better than the D40.

If you are not going off road, I think a van makes better sense, my firm has brought a E26 Caravan, great vehicle.

[husaberg]