So what's the best super naked currently?

[nzspokes]

The New SDR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5v1xZoRKS8

[Gremlin]

The New SDR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5v1xZoRKS8

And the video that wanted to play straight after

[Ocean1]

And the video that wanted to play straight after

Clutch? Pull up on bars? Hard to understand what he's saying a bit but his SDR seems to be down on torque compared to mine. By more than one gear.

Mine will lift the front wheel off the throttle only in 3rd at just about any revs. 4th gear you have to be over about 4500rpm. It lifts the front in 5th at full throttle as the revs go through 5500rpm and if you, (or the TC) don't back off you'd be on your arse.

You do need clutch to get it up in 6th, but it's not something I like doing.

I've noticed several reports on SDRs that leave me puzzled about lack of promised power, Mossy test rode one and was disappointed. He had a Kwaka 1400 at that stage, but even so I've come to the conclusion that there's often a big difference bike to bike. I've noticed exactly that on the several occasions I've ridden supposedly identical bikes, but of course none of them have been new.

[nzspokes]

Clutch? Pull up on bars? Hard to understand what he's saying a bit but his SDR seems to be down on torque compared to mine. By more than one gear.

Mine will lift the front wheel off the throttle only in 3rd at just about any revs. 4th gear you have to be over about 4500rpm. It lifts the front in 5th at full throttle as the revs go through 5500rpm and if you, (or the TC) don't back off you'd be on your arse.

You do need clutch to get it up in 6th, but it's not something I like doing.

I've noticed several reports on SDRs that leave me puzzled about lack of promised power, Mossy test rode one and was disappointed. He had a Kwaka 1400 at that stage, but even so I've come to the conclusion that there's a big difference bike to bike. I've noticed exactly that on the several occasions I've ridden supposedly identical bikes, but of course none of them have been new.

Is yours tuned in anyway?

I do think peoples idea of a roll on is different.

[Drew]

Is yours tuned in anyway?

I do think peoples idea of a roll on is different.

Stock standard, the 1290 will hoist the wheel in 4th gear without a tug on the bars. Just open the throttle at 3000rpm and wait.

[Ocean1]

Is yours tuned in anyway?

I do think peoples idea of a roll on is different.

Bog standard.

I honestly don't pay much attention to professional reviews, they're usually focused on either racing performance or pure numbers, neither of which I'm interested in for a road bike. But. MCN tested the 1290 as the fastest... no, no, hold on, I'm bloody doing it now... "the best mid-range and roll on speed figures we’ve ever tested and is the most powerful naked bike on the market." And: "4.79 seconds to get from 30-100mph in third gear. That beats any other road bike we’ve ever tested."

Stock standard, the 1290 will hoist the wheel in 4th gear without a tug on the bars. Just open the throttle at 3000rpm and wait.

Pretty much, yeah.

I rarely turn TC off altogether but when I do I'm a little cautious in 1st, even off idle anything like full throttle and you could so easily overcook it. I'm a little chicken in 2nd as well.

[AllanB]

Wait for the 2017 to turn up later this year and then buy a discounted 2016? There will be F-all difference in the real world riding on NZ roads.

If stats are you thing it may have less hp etc due to stupid Euro regs.

Stop tire kicking and buy something - go for a decent mid-winter slow sales discount.

[nzspokes]

Wait for the 2017 to turn up later this year and then buy a discounted 2016? There will be F-all difference in the real world riding on NZ roads.

If stats are you thing it may have less hp etc due to stupid Euro regs.

Stop tire kicking and buy something - go for a decent mid-winter slow sales discount.

This thread is more about talking about a interesting range of bikes.

My guess is the "Spy Shots" are setup to test market feedback on styling.

[AllanB]

Well in that case my Ducati Streetfighter 848 is most definitely the best supernaked in my garage hands down

[nzspokes]

Had a little play on a KTM 1290 GT yesterday. Not a SuperNaked. More a Hypersonic Tourer.

Sadly sounds like they are sold out until March next year.

[Ocean1]

Had a little play on a KTM 1290 GT yesterday. Not a SuperNaked. More a Hypersonic Tourer.

Sadly sounds like they are sold out until March next year.

You tried an SDR, yes?

In which ways did it feel different?

[nzspokes]

You tried an SDR, yes?

In which ways did it feel different?

Felt the same really. Bars higher I think. Just more stuff out the front and wider tank.

Would be a hard call between them If I was looking that way. Put a screen on a SDR would do the same thing. Heap of extra crap that I dont really think I would use.

They had a used SDR with a decat link and a Akra slipon. Mapped to suit. Bloody hell it was loud. Way too loud. Reckon the stock one sounded better.

[Ocean1]

Felt the same really. Bars higher I think. Just more stuff out the front and wider tank.

Would be a hard call between them If I was looking that way. Put a screen on a SDR would do the same thing. Heap of extra crap that I dont really think I would use.

They had a used SDR with a decat link and a Akra slipon. Mapped to suit. Bloody hell it was loud. Way too loud. Reckon the stock one sounded better.

Hmmm, about what I expected. Based on which I don't know if I'd change either. Although in a year or two I might have more focus on touring, (I wish) and by then there'll be some GTs turning up 2nd hand...

[nzspokes]

Hmmm, about what I expected. Based on which I don't know if I'd change either. Although in a year or two I might have more focus on touring, (I wish) and by then there'll be some GTs turning up 2nd hand...

Well a screen and some panniers and it would be a great touring bike. Factory panniers look Naff and are not hard ones. Wouldnt be hard to graft Givi ones on for much less than the $1500 KTM ones.

[Ocean1]

Well a screen and some panniers and it would be a great touring bike. Factory panniers look Naff and are not hard ones. Wouldnt be hard to graft Givi ones on for much less than the $1500 KTM ones.

I have a hate/hate relationship with screens. Have never come across one that didn't create more discomfort from turbulence than it cured, and I've ridden a lot of bikes with screens. Luckily most people find the standard SDR is surprisingly calm around head height, at least up to walk-home speeds.

Best panniers I've seen are the expandable BMW ones, great design but they've got the cut-out for the zorst inside one, which the SDR doesn't need. So yeah, maybe Givi V35s and a well thought out mount...