Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[TheDemonLord]

At the risk of further increasing the chance of you popping a blood vessel, if it comes down to 88 deaths a year versus unleashing a plague of autistic fuckwits like yourself on society, I've gotta say, it's a tough choice to make.

Except - in a country that doesn't Vaccinate - the Autism rate is almost twice as high as one that does?

Or did you miss that Part?

And Further More - Autism is a better outcome than Death.

And for the record - We've got the Red Rep, the Accusations of Autism, The refusal to discuss the points that show you to be blatantly wrong - I've got $5 that says what is soon to come from you....

[Katman]

Except - in a country that doesn't Vaccinate - the Autism rate is almost twice as high as one that does?

What are you talking about?

http://japanhealthinfo.com/child-hea...e/vaccination/

I've got $5 that says what is soon to come from you....

So what was the fiver on?

[TheDemonLord]

What are you talking about?

http://japanhealthinfo.com/child-hea...e/vaccination/

Are you actually that stupid or just being intentionally thick?

We are talking about the MMR vaccine - which Japan does not use. It even says so in that link you posted.

Seriously, you are either monumentally Stupid or you are so deadset on this world view of yours that you will actively deny reality to make it fit - which is also known as being Insane.

So what was the fiver on?

I said soon, but if I tell you, it will give the game away.

[Katman]

Are you actually that stupid or just being intentionally thick?

We are talking about the MMR vaccine - which Japan does not use. It even says so in that link you posted.

Seriously, you are either monumentally Stupid or you are so deadset on this world view of yours that you will actively deny reality to make it fit - which is also known as being Insane.

Dude, it might seem in your tiny autistic mind as though this discussion is solely about the MMR vaccine.

I've got news for you - it's not.

[TheDemonLord]

Dude, it might seem in your tiny autistic mind as though this discussion is solely about the MMR vaccine.

I've got news for you - it's not.

I know - its about batshit crazy lunatics and their monumentally stupid beliefs that everyone is out to get them.... It's also about these ideas that they have contribute to dead and seriously ill children.

but to recap - Japan stopped using the MMR (around 1991 I think) vaccine and lots of children got sick and some died. The UK continued to use the Vaccine, very few got sick none died. Japan has twice the incidence of Autism than the UK.

Interesting link:

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/...S?locations=JP

You'll note the lowest vaccination rates were between '93-95 - and so come about school age (5 on up) you have a load of un-vaccinated children coming into contact with each other - and surprise surprise - thats around the year 2000.

There was another outbreak in around 2007 I believe - which would be when all those unvaccinated walking biological weapons would have going to Highschool and the cycle repeats - and interestingly enough it was the High schools where the problem was happening and were forced to close.

This means several things:

1: You are wrong.
2: You are really Wrong.
3: You are wrong as per usual
4: MMR and Vaccines don't cause Autism
5: Not vaccinating causes children to get seriously ill and Die
6: You are still wrong
7: Andrew Wakefield is a Fraud and should never be mentioned with any semblance of seriousness in any discussion about Autism/Vaccines except for as an example to mocked and ridiculed
8: You are still monumentally wrong.
9: See Points 1-3,6 and 8 for details.

Finally - Japan has seen the error of it's ways and has re-introduced a vaccination program, but it is being hampered by an entire generation that weren't vaccinated.

[Ocean1]

You are wrong.

What the fuck took you so long?

[TheDemonLord]

What the fuck took you so long?

It was taken as a given, the purpose of the exercise is to objectively demonstrate this and the magnitude of the wrong-ness

[Ocean1]

It was taken as a given, the purpose of the exercise is to objectively demonstrate this and the magnitude of the wrong-ness

But they like being wrong.

I mean, they could randomly choose conclusions and fail nowhere near as badly as they do now, how else can you explain it?

[TheDemonLord]

But they like being wrong.

I mean, they could randomly choose conclusions and fail nowhere near as badly as they do now, how else can you explain it?

There is not time enough nor space enough to adequately explain it.

but there are some interesting common factors - Low confidence/self esteem, Persecution complex, need to be accepted by a group, distrust of authority etc.

There's even been a couple of studies done on it - the one I found most interesting was that once someone believes one Conspiracy, they are far more likely to accept a Conspiratorial answer than a non-conspiratorial answer - now which KB members does that remind you of?

[bogan]

Dude, it might seem in your tiny autistic mind as though this discussion is solely about the MMR vaccine.

I've got news for you - it's not.

You should watch this, you fucking dumb flatulent-hobo-fellating shitlord; oh, and stop using an iron as a dildo, it'll give you arse cancer.

[husaberg]

Are you actually that stupid or just being intentionally thick?

We are talking about the MMR vaccine - which Japan does not use. It even says so in that link you posted.

Seriously, you are either monumentally Stupid or you are so deadset on this world view of yours that you will actively deny reality to make it fit - which is also known as being Insane.



I said soon, but if I tell you, it will give the game away.

He's already been told that, but it appears facts don't permeate the katmans brain.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1130981233

They predict that if the current rate of increase continues, by 2030 we'll be at 1 in 2 diagnosed with autism.

You mean like in Japan
The MMR scare caused a low percentage of mumps vaccination (less than 30%), which resulted in outbreaks in Japan. There were up to 2002 measles caused deaths in Japan while there were none in UK, but the extra deaths were attributed to Japan's application of the vaccine at a later age. A spokesman for the Ministry of Health said that the discontinuation had no effect in measles, but also mentioning that there were more deaths by measles while MMR was being used.
In 1994 the government dropped the vaccination requirement for measles and rubella due to the 1993 MMR scare.
Japan is nowadays the only developed country with large measles epidemics. It has been called a "measles exporter" by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. As another consequence of the scare, in 2003, 7 million schoolchildren had not been vaccinated against rubella.

Yet Autism rates continued to rise in Japan after the discontinuation of the MMR vaccine, which disproves any large-scale effect of vaccination.
Like I said, you don't know shit from a shovel.

So have your animals been vaccinated Katman?
What about you, have you been vaccinated?

[Ocean1]

Are you actually that stupid or just being intentionally thick?

Wouldn't it take a damned good lashing of both to explain the sheer quantity of fail involved?

[Katman]

You should watch this, you fucking dumb flatulent-hobo-fellating shitlord; oh, and stop using an iron as a dildo, it'll give you arse cancer.

Well clearly the answer to the question 'is science reliable?' is a resounding 'not when humans try doing it'.

It would suggest that any medical research needs to be treated with scepticism - even if that research states that vaccines don't cause autism.

[bogan]

Well clearly the answer to the question 'is science reliable?' is a resounding 'not when humans try doing it'.

It would suggest that any medical research needs to be treated with scepticism - even if that research states that vaccines don't cause autism.

You should watch the video though. Or do we need to find an interview about the video so you can 'understand it'.

[Katman]

You should watch the video though. Or do we need to find an interview about the video so you can 'understand it'.

I did watch the video, you stupid cunt.

Did you?