My first poll for the NZ public

**bogan** · 24th July 2016, 10:09

Originally Posted by mashman

I mentioned the problem earlier with the cancer example that didn't suit you because your understanding was that I was unlinking production and consumption when I wasn't. Removing money would see the people who can't afford to get the drugs, get the drugs and potentially live.

No, that's you putting words in my mouth, again. I understand that fine. Technically 1/2 could be produced.

You don't remember the ICS eh. No real surprise there. Hell, you couldn't even remember the cancer problem from a day ago. I understand fine bogan. Now, haven't you got some understanding to go and misunderstand... don't worry, I'll be here so that you can take your, demonstrably continuous, fail out on someone. I know I'm enabling tall poppy, but you really seem to need to get it out of your system. They haven't formed because no one knows. Pretty simple thing that you keep ignoring.

Removing money doesn't remove the need to provide large amount of resources to the 'drug companies' to research and product them though.

1/2 could be produced? twice the consumption of what is produced? clearly you do not understand, a sandwich can only be eaten once mashy.

And there it is, when faced with his own lack of understanding and unpalatable truth, mashy once again hides behind misdirection and bows out of the discussion. Shitters like you are what stops an rbe from forming, heathens who appropriate the name, only to give it a bad reputation through your ineptitude.

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Because it's only lazy cunts that want one, and they're too lazy to make one let alone sustain one.

Yup, he's shown that once again.

**mashman** · 24th July 2016, 10:29

Originally Posted by bogan

Removing money doesn't remove the need to provide large amount of resources to the 'drug companies' to research and product them though.

1/2 could be produced? twice the consumption of what is produced? clearly you do not understand, a sandwich can only be eaten once mashy.

And there it is, when faced with his own lack of understanding and unpalatable truth, mashy once again hides behind misdirection and bows out of the discussion. Shitters like you are what stops an rbe from forming, heathens who appropriate the name, only to give it a bad reputation through your ineptitude.

I never said it did. Understanding fail.

And you don't understand that a full pill can be produced as a half pill, technically. Understanding fail.

Understanding fail. It'd help if you stopped blaming me for yours, but it looks like I hit that nail square on the head. Go on, tell me again how many people know about RBE

. Vacuous, just like the claimed understandings you create for others.

but also

So, send your red, make me laugh more and slope off in your usual cloud of adhoms.

**bogan** · 24th July 2016, 10:38

Originally Posted by mashman

I never said it did. Understanding fail.

And you don't understand that a full pill can be produced as a half pill, technically. Understanding fail.

Understanding fail. It'd help if you stopped blaming me for yours, but it looks like I hit that nail square on the head. Go on, tell me again how many people know about RBE

. Vacuous, just like the claimed understandings you create for others.

but also

So, send your red, make me laugh more and slope off in your usual cloud of adhoms.

A full pill as a half pill, that's your answer to the whole production/consumption thing? seriously?

Look, we've both seen you don't understand rbe's. Convoluted logic about pills notwithstanding, there are no rbe's. Your ideas from why this is have have been shown to be lacking; enough people know for large scale pilot programs, you can do it from within a financial system, you don't need a new city; yet, there are none. Your understanding does not add up with reality; mired in self delusion you only hamper the way to an rbe. My understanding does tally with reality, and why none have emerged; this is why I can work towards it.

**mashman** · 24th July 2016, 10:42

Originally Posted by bogan

A full pill as a half pill, that's your answer to the whole production/consumption thing? seriously?

Look, we've both seen you don't understand rbe's. Convoluted logic about pills notwithstanding, there are no rbe's. Your ideas from why this is have have been shown to be lacking; enough people know for large scale pilot programs, you can do it from within a financial system, you don't need a new city; yet, there are none. Your understanding does not add up with reality; mired in self delusion you only hamper the way to an rbe. My understanding does tally with reality, and why none have emerged; this is why I can work towards it.

No, that's not what I was meaning at all. Hence why I said understanding fail.

bwaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Thanks man.

**Woodman** · 24th July 2016, 10:47

Who would be in charge of quality control in the pill factory that nobody is obligated to even show up? What punishment /action would be taken against someone that fucks up a batch of pills and kills people? Sack them? big deal they don't have to work anyway. Actually who would sack them? Managers would have nothing over their employees. Why would you want to be a boss at all? no extra reward for basically herding cats. There has to be accountability. Basic human nature.

Quality of anything produced in an RBE would be shit. They would have to produce so many more of each widget to get one widget that would work properly. Now thats a waste of resources.

**bogan** · 24th July 2016, 11:05

Originally Posted by Woodman

Who would be in charge of quality control in the pill factory that nobody is obligated to even show up? What punishment /action would be taken against someone that fucks up a batch of pills and kills people? Sack them? big deal they don't have to work anyway. Actually who would sack them? Managers would have nothing over their employees. Why would you want to be a boss at all? no extra reward for basically herding cats. There has to be accountability. Basic human nature.

Quality of anything produced in an RBE would be shit. They would have to produce so many more of each widget to get one widget that would work properly. Now thats a waste of resources.

Disagree, either quality, or quantity of anything produced in a non-emergent (implemented before it was proven ready) rbe would be shit. Scientists would happily take 30 years to make a drug they thought was right (and that might be the only new drug in 30 years btw). Course you might get other 'scientists' (cos you wouldn't need any qualifications in the dumb-shit rbe) who take half arsed work and mass produce, and mass murder. But hey, that's still better than money, cos reasons

**mashman** · 24th July 2016, 19:07

Originally Posted by Woodman

Who would be in charge of quality control in the pill factory that nobody is obligated to even show up? What punishment /action would be taken against someone that fucks up a batch of pills and kills people? Sack them? big deal they don't have to work anyway. Actually who would sack them? Managers would have nothing over their employees. Why would you want to be a boss at all? no extra reward for basically herding cats. There has to be accountability. Basic human nature.

Quality of anything produced in an RBE would be shit. They would have to produce so many more of each widget to get one widget that would work properly. Now thats a waste of resources.

What's wrong with the people doing those jobs at the moment? You don't think people will listen to someone leading a project unless they're paid to do so? No such thing as human nature. Just learned behaviour i.e. lazy thinkers

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The goal of an RBE is to build things to the best standards available, not just to a standard that's passed as compliance. That way things will last longer, which saves energy on manufacturing replacements through not having to cheapskate the product/components to a budget, therefore extending the lifetime of not just that resource, but any other reliant resources. Planned obsolescence is a waste of resources.minutes.

**bogan** · 24th July 2016, 19:15

Originally Posted by mashman

What's wrong with the people doing those jobs at the moment?

They fucking keep sneaking autism into the pills

**Voltaire** · 24th July 2016, 19:31

Originally Posted by mashman

Don't fret, those who don't post youtube clips and maintain the status quo will be along shortly with brand new packaging and shiny trinkets of reward to rule you some more.

Whens it going to happen

You guys post up video clips, no one bothers watching them....

I'm biting my nails whether to build a bunker or go and buy some more motorcycles....need to know.

**mashman** · 24th July 2016, 19:55

Originally Posted by Voltaire

Whens it going to happen

You guys post up video clips, no one bothers watching them....

I'm biting my nails whether to build a bunker or go and buy some more motorcycles....need to know.

It's how things have been done since ages ago. You're living it and you don't even notice

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More motorcycles.

**Voltaire** · 24th July 2016, 20:11

Originally Posted by mashman

It's how things have been done since ages ago. You're living it and you don't even notice

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More motorcycles.

Whats to notice, the rich 1% own 90% of the wealth, old money owns the US Govt and probably most of the others, thats why they gave the

internet to surf.....but its actually serf.

Its not so bad as long as you get off you butt and are not at the bottom of the pyramid.

thinking Triumph Thruxton R, but need to wait for my fiat money to make the most of BREXIT.

**mashman** · 24th July 2016, 20:23

Originally Posted by Voltaire

Whats to notice, the rich 1% own 90% of the wealth, old money owns the US Govt and probably most of the others, thats why they gave the

internet to surf.....but its actually serf.

Its not so bad as long as you get off you butt and are not at the bottom of the pyramid.

thinking Triumph Thruxton R, but need to wait for my fiat money to make the most of BREXIT.

lol@serf... you've been listening to Akzle too much.

I'm aware of the shiney stuff on offer if you can get a job that pays lots. Allows one to retire early too

Leverage... get it all on credit

**Voltaire** · 24th July 2016, 20:47

Originally Posted by mashman

lol@serf... you've been listening to Akzle too much.

I'm aware of the shiney stuff on offer if you can get a job that pays lots. Allows one to retire early too

Leverage... get it all on credit

Thought about selling up and retiring to the provinces but quite liking the job that pays a lot.

Credit....whats that?

**Brian d marge** · 24th July 2016, 21:33

Originally Posted by Voltaire

Whens it going to happen

You guys post up video clips, no one bothers watching them....

I'm biting my nails whether to build a bunker or go and buy some more motorcycles....need to know.

Just bought another bow ...50# for actual use but 60 for practice nice grouping at 20 m
Barn door at 30
Bring on the ruuskies...I'm ready

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