Stupid World

[sidecar bob]

See, there are a few answers to that... but this is KB If producers are a minority, then they may well be up shit creek without a paddle where their employees are happy to run with it. On the plus side, I don't see what the producer will be losing. Communicating that last bit is the hard bit where they don't want to let go. Thing is, as a former capitalist of some 4 decades, I completely understand why some won't want to let go so easily. Meh. We'll see what happens.

If I was a producer & all my staff turned against me, I'd shut the doors & fuck off to handoutville, leaving my staff up shit creek. Easy really.

[mashman]

That's a little unfair, he hinted and offered half arsed explanations many times; unfortunatly they contradict with what he has said previously, and with reality.

Lets face it, he's got no fucking clue what an RBE is about or how it works. He's just another freeloader trying to con hard working folks out of what they deserve. An actual RBE is something worth aiming for, but it'd be nothing like what this mush brained fuckwit rambles on about.

"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him." – Leo Tolstoy... On the plus side, you're not slow-witted, nor a man I suspect.

[Ocean1]

I thought the producer reserved the right to pass on his goods to whoever he liked?

Yes, you seem keen to think that, I've no idea why.

A communist concept you say? Quite an epic fail for someone touted as one of our brightest. See, there ya go again claiming that you know what I mean when you've stated, yet again, that you don't.

Wrong again, I've already said I have no idea what you're on about. I've also said that you've at no stage ever demonstrated that you do either.

You have never at any time said what premise your "money free" market functioned on. As it most closely resembles good ol' fashioned communism with heavy leavenings of cargo cult philosophies I think I'm fairly safe in assuming that the link between earning shit and getting shit is completely missing.

Who decides who gets what again?

And as, yet again you've failed to explain how you plan to allocate shit the observation remains perfectly valid.

[bogan]

"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him." – Leo Tolstoy... On the plus side, you're not slow-witted, nor a man I suspect.

Yet, when we've discussed it in any detail, you've been the one shown to be wrong, self-contradictory, and retreating to statements like "the people will choose/figure it out/etc". It's simply not a subject you understand, which is a prerequisite of what old Leo refers to. So now it's just straight to the ad hominems; I'm sure there's an applicable quote by a noted smart guy, but you're just not worth it.

[mashman]

If I was a producer & all my staff turned against me, I'd shut the doors & fuck off to handoutville, leaving my staff up shit creek. Easy really.

I'd wonder what I had done that was so wrong that my staff would turn against me. But hey. Oh, and where the employees are running with it, I fail to see how they'd be up shit creek in an RBE given that all they'll be missing is a boss. Just some thoughts like.

[mashman]

Yet, when we've discussed it in any detail, you've been the one shown to be wrong, self-contradictory, and retreating to statements like "the people will choose/figure it out/etc". It's simply not a subject you understand, which is a prerequisite of what old Leo refers to. So now it's just straight to the ad hominems; I'm sure there's an applicable quote by a noted smart guy, but you're just not worth it.

What ad hominem? Like the rest of your understandings from the "discussions" we've had, there weren't no ad hominem. Thing is, the Tolstoy quote refers to me too... but it seems that only I know that.

[bogan]

I'd wonder what I had done that was so wrong that my staff would turn against me. But hey. Oh, and where the employees are running with it, I fail to see how they'd be up shit creek in an RBE given that all they'll be missing is a boss. Just some thoughts like.

They'd also be missing all the production equipment the boss had. Mind you, mob rule and murder will fix that...

What ad hominem? Like the rest of your understandings from the "discussions" we've had, there weren't no ad hominem. Thing is, the Tolstoy quote refers to me too... but it seems that only I know that.

Get fucked, mashy.

[Katman]

Although a sensible producer would pass his goods on to the highest bidder. Unless he is a complete idiot of course.

Not everyone worships money.

[mashman]

Yes, you seem keen to think that, I've no idea why.

Wrong again, I've already said I have no idea what you're on about. I've also said that you've at no stage ever demonstrated that you do either.

And as, yet again you've failed to explain how you plan to allocate shit the observation remains perfectly valid.

Because he does. That he chooses to leave it to those who have money doesn't stop that from being true.

No idea eh... solid platform to draw your conclusions from

We already know what we each need... in fact the economy collects data etc... that predicts the needs of the people. Hmmmmmm, now let me think... how are we going to allocate shit

[mashman]

They'd also be missing all the production equipment the boss had. Mind you, mob rule and murder will fix that...

Get fucked, mashy.

Awesome understanding bro.

I love you.

[Voltaire]

If I was a producer & all my staff turned against me, I'd shut the doors & fuck off to handoutville, leaving my staff up shit creek. Easy really.

Mushi will never know, probably has only ever worked for the Govt

Bwahaaaa...bwahhhaaaa.

[bogan]

Mushi will never know, probably has only ever worked for the Govt

Bwahaaaa...bwahhhaaaa.

I've often wondered if the likes of him and yokely were govt plants sent to alienate conspiracy theorists and money free'ers from mainstream society. Because that is exactly what their moronic drivel achieves...

[Ocean1]

Because he does. That he chooses to leave it to those who have money doesn't stop that from being true.

No idea eh... solid platform to draw your conclusions from

We already know what we each need... in fact the economy collects data etc... that predicts the needs of the people. Hmmmmmm, now let me think... how are we going to allocate shit

So he fails to give it to those that can't afford it?

The cunt.

Never mind, when the revolution comes we'll all have everything we want, 'cause there'll be no money to worry about.

And now that you've actually recognised the question why not just answer the fucking thing?

[Woodman]

I'd wonder what I had done that was so wrong that my staff would turn against me. But hey. Oh, and where the employees are running with it, I fail to see how they'd be up shit creek in an RBE given that all they'll be missing is a boss. Just some thoughts like.

All they would be missing is a boss. FFS those "workers" in your rbe bollocks are going to need managing more than workers do now.

[mashman]

So he fails to give it to those that can't afford it?

The cunt.

Never mind, when the revolution comes we'll all have everything we want, 'cause there'll be no money to worry about.

And now that you've actually recognised the question why not just answer the fucking thing?

No. Those who can't afford it aren't in the running... irrespective of need.

He could be, but hey, he's the producer innit.

Here's hoping that the producers don't throw their toys out of the pram, or that won't be the case will it?

I've always known the question and you've had more than your fair share of answers... but as you've said, you didn't understand them.