The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[Banditbandit]

Tis true that Chances do have a part to play and there are some who got to where they are by essentially being lucky (although I dislike this as being gifted a chance is one thing, having the skills and ability to take advantage of it is another) whereas others made a success of themselves by hard work and making their own opportunities.

Yeah .. I don't like the concept of lucky ... some know how to make the most of their chances and some never get a chance to even know they have a chance, let alone make the most of it ..

[Banditbandit]

And back to the topic ...

This is an interesting analysis ..


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michae..._11545026.html

[yokel]

And back to the topic ...

This is an interesting analysis ..


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michae..._11545026.html

Haha more like the main steamer media trying their best to sabotage Trump.

What kinda Muppet reads that shit??

[Ocean1]

You reply is littered with value judgements which we don't all share.

And "workers are a resource" hmmm .. first of all workers are human beings, not just a resource for the capitalists to exploit. Exploiting human beings is called slavery ..

And yours is littered with error.

Your human, for example is many things, one of those has value quantifiable in terms of his contribution to a product.

If that offends your delicate sensibilities then I suggest you organize to make up the difference between what the market is prepared to pay for their services and whatever it is that you think they should earn.

[Ocean1]

Well, Stalin certainly thought so - kulaks all and off to the Gulags with them ...

I don't subscribe to the structuralist analysis completely.

I knew of a businessman, with a middle size business, who paid himself a weekly wage at the same rate as his highest employee - and at the end of the year divided the company profits equally between himself and his staff .... and I mean equally, not pro rata on a salary basis.


Now, he had to know business and finance because he established and ran a very successful business ... but he certainly was not an exploiter ..

He also had a very happy, hard-working and loyal staff - which also goes to explain why his business was so successful. This was back in the 1970s .. and he had no strikes. People didn't ask for overtime for an extra hour after work (he rarely asked and more often they put their hands up for it when they knew stuff needed to be done )

Excellent way to run a business.

I've done exactly that in a past life.

So, now, this dude's business, is now?

[Ocean1]

Hmmm .. life chances dictate a lot more in life than the fact that there are opportunities ...

How does one person grow up in a state house and become prime minister while another ends up in jail as a serial rapist ...

For the serial rapeist it was too late .... they never learnt they could maker good choices ..

Um, one works hard and doesn't rape people?

Or is that an opportunity not available to rapists?

[Woodman]

Good luck when the revolution comes ..

Thanks, but I still think you are taking the word exploit out of context. I meant it as "use/utilise" a resource, and employees are a resource. Anyway I am nit-picking.

exploit
verb
verb: exploit; 3rd person present: exploits; past tense: exploited; past participle: exploited; gerund or present participle: exploiting
ɪkˈsplɔɪt,ɛk-/

1.
make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource).
"500 companies sprang up to exploit this new technology"
synonyms: utilize, make use of, put to use, use, use to good advantage, turn/put to good use, make the most of, capitalize on, benefit from, turn to account, draw on; More
profit from/by, make capital out of;
informalcash in on, milk
"platinum was originally exploited by the Indians of Colombia and Ecuador"
2.
make use of (a situation) in a way considered unfair or underhand.
"the company was exploiting a legal loophole"

[Ocean1]

Then we have an impasse.

However, if it is all smoke and mirrors - you must ask why it has enabled the countries that subscribe to those theories to be so succeful?

Yeah, that's a rather large actual turd in the virtual punch bowl, there.

[Akzle]

Then we have an impasse.

However, if it is all smoke and mirrors - you must ask why it has enabled the countries that subscribe to those theories to be so succeful?

succeful indeed. but alas. the failure is still yours.

not quite sure what metric you class as success, either. and I dont care. you're stupid.

[TheDemonLord]

Yeah .. I don't like the concept of lucky ... some know how to make the most of their chances and some never get a chance to even know they have a chance, let alone make the most of it ..

I thought your predilection for chaos, anarchy and randomness would make you at peace with luck. I mean I agree that Luck is a fickle mistress and many who ought to have a stroke of luck and there are those that have lucky breaks who ought not to.

[TheDemonLord]

succeful indeed. but alas. the failure is still yours.

not quite sure what metric you class as success, either. and I dont care. you're stupid.

Right right, except for the part where you contradict yourself - and that's where the Gordian knot of your ideas starts to unravel itself.

On the other hand - my responses are consistent, maybe be because the theory that I subscribe to, is also consistent

[Virago]

Haha more like the main steamer media trying their best to sabotage Trump.

What kinda Muppet reads that shit??

You do. You regularly and eagerly lap up the content of MSM, when it suits your warped views.

[yokel]

You do. You regularly and eagerly lap up the content of MSM, when it suits your warped views.

Yip, at the end of the day I pick and choose what I believe or no longer choose to.

All MSM and alt articles tell a narrative with only some of the available facts.

[Woodman]

All MSM and ault articles tell a narrative with only some of the available facts.

Pretty sure that can be said about any article from any source.

[yokel]

Pretty sure that can be said about any article from any source.

The thing about the MSM is that it's pretty much always "politicly correct"

Mr Trump is an anti-globalist (well making out like he is) and therefore politicly incorrect.