99 f650 beemer

**Stu999c** · 24th August 2016, 12:09

Hey I'm looking at this bmw to buy and its from a guy I know and not listed anywhere.
We are trying to work out a fair value
What could you expect to pay for one of these in tidy condition with 95ks on the clock.
How many ks could you expect out of a properly serviced one??
Ta all

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**Saarg** · 24th August 2016, 12:23

I have the 2001. With 45000k full panniers. I payed nz$7200.
Since owning I've had to do the clutch and both front and rear shocks (about nz$5200) and replaced the oil pressure sensor nz$300.
... Hope that helps

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**Stu999c** · 24th August 2016, 12:29

It does help for sure.
This one is an sf
A bit more street type. I guess it will still be ok on the gravel.
I'm on the fence whether to go up to the 650 or stay on my little klx250 (great commuter bike) Hmmm decisions

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**Saarg** · 24th August 2016, 14:48

Originally Posted by Stu999c

....go up to the 650 or stay on my little klx250

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My 10 cents....,
The 2001-2006 Klr 650 is worth a look then, easier/cheaper for parts and community around the kl's is a lot bigger.
There comfortable on the highway and will keep up on the gravel roads too.
Bmw (bring my wallet) is more interested in selling you the latest model, 2 1/2 weeks X Germany for the oil pressure switch.
And there's a lot of blacktop between dirt roads in NZ

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**Saarg** · 25th August 2016, 16:59

Have a look at this

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1147067279

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**Aslan** · 25th August 2016, 18:34

I'd say you're fortunate to have received such honest advice from 'sarrg' concerning his ownership experience

what you're contemplating buying is one of the first generation F650's - the 'Funduro' see here http://faq.f650.com/FAQs/F650HistoryDifferences.htm

If it's an ST then it has more road aspirations than the non ST version which aimed to be all things to all people.

I've had several BMWs including a 2001 F650 GS Dakar - realised after some time that for pure adventure fun, - gravel and single track (off road) a DR650SE would make far more economic sense. Also, the KLR650 is an alternative worth considering.

It all depends what you want to do - a '99 Funduro is one of the last before the F650GS with fuel injection. Subject to maintenance, the kilometres the one you're contemplating may not be an issue.

All of the above is the experience of an old man who does not necessarily behave rationally when it comes to motos - I still ride an R1200GS which works for me. However, a VeeStrom would do much the same job for a lesser price.

As the old guy in the Speights ad says ' son, its hard to get the perfect woman' - for your purposes substitute 'bike' for woman

Good luck - do your research would be my advice - buy and enjoy - 'loving the one you're with'

**Stu999c** · 25th August 2016, 18:46

Good advice is sometimes hard to come by.
Saarg has some good points.

That dr400 is a great looking option too.

I have since looked at both the klr and also the Drs
It was a humble dr200 that started me back on a bike after a 15 year hiatus.
I'm really enjoying my klx but I know a bigger bike will come my way.
After a looksie around and a bit or reading the dr is the front runner now

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**Oscar** · 25th August 2016, 21:38

Originally Posted by Stu999c

Hey I'm looking at this bmw to buy and its from a guy I know and not listed anywhere.
We are trying to work out a fair value
What could you expect to pay for one of these in tidy condition with 95ks on the clock.
How many ks could you expect out of a properly serviced one??
Ta all

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Around $2,500 - $3,000.
There are a couple on TM at the moment around that year/km.

**mossy1200** · 25th August 2016, 22:08

I think stu wants to know how much life is likely left in the engine with it having high km.

I would expect its in the how lucky do you feel millage stage.

**AllanB** · 25th August 2016, 22:17

Originally Posted by mossy1200

I would expect its in the how lucky do you feel millage stage.

This.

Google - find a BMW forum - see what people are getting out of them and what is being replaced at that kms. Also your resale will only plummet after you put more kms on it ........

Possibly a better question is: I have $XX to spend on a bike - what do you recommend and why? Yeah you'll get the usual KB shit (someone will say a Busa with dirt tyres ....) but you'll also get some good advice from people who own the bikes they recommend.

**clint640** · 26th August 2016, 09:49

Some good advice above.

Those motors are one of the more reliable 650 class donks but 95K km is getting up there for a single. I remember someone posting up some rebuild pics on ADV of a later version of that motor, at about those km - it was all pretty good apart from some wear on the crank bearings IIRC.

I have found the F650 beemers notable on two fronts - road comfort & being stupidly heavy for a single.

Cheers
Clint

**neels** · 26th August 2016, 14:47

Originally Posted by Stu999c

That dr400 is a great looking option too.

Had one of those, close ration 5 speed gearbox means it's a real compromise for road use, and as posted above there is quite a bit of road between off road rides. This is why I'm currently looking for something else....

**Muzz67** · 26th August 2016, 14:58

Originally Posted by neels

Had one of those, close ration 5 speed gearbox means it's a real compromise for road use, and as posted above there is quite a bit of road between off road rides. This is why I'm currently looking for something else....

While the DRZ is a great trail-bike, and geared appropriately, is probably a good road bike or commuter,, as a dual purpose the 5speed close ratio box is a deal killer.
To achieve a reasonably comfortable 100kph cruise means 1st gear becomes far too high for slow/tricky going.
A decent slowish first gear means 100kph is running at approx 7000rpm which gets real tiring real quick.

**Stu999c** · 26th August 2016, 15:54

That's where I am with the klx. 100km@7k rpm.
I think a dr650 is the best option after s lot of reading.
I will cruise around this summer on the klx and look at changing bikes over winter.

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**Ulsterkiwi** · 26th August 2016, 16:53

I had two of these.
A '99 with 75k on the clock, I paid $4k for it as it was otherwise really tidy. I then had a '98 which had 11.5k on the clock and I paid $5k as it came with genuine panniers and was in really excellent condition as you would expect. I probably paid too much for both of them. But, I wanted a beemer, and a new one was $13k at the time. The first one I trashed because I was stupid. The second one I traded for $4.5 so it held its value. The dealer sold it within a week for $6k

I really enjoyed both bikes and did LOTS of commuting and touring kms on them. I am what you might call corn fed so when I got my full licence I moved to something bigger, not because it was slow but because of my frame, I wanted more room on my bike.

I found them pretty easy to work on as there was little on them that was complicated, carbs, no ABS, no fancy electronics and the bodywork was easy to strip off to get access to the various bits and bobs. Oil changes were odd (to me) because the frame is used to store oil so takes a bit of thought to drain.

Parts, well its beemer, I replaced a footpeg rubber, it had to come from Germania and cost $60 (maybe even more, memory is fuzzy) I did however get a new bolt and nut for that. The only other thing I had to do besides normal maintenance (oil & filter, brakes, tyres etc) was a fan switch sensor. BMW wanted $100 or something nuts like that, BNT gave me one spec'd exactly the same for $20. There is an extensive worldwide community riding these things with lots of support for newcomers. Try looking for the chain gang.

They have a rotax engine which is pretty much indestructible. Several people have ridden these around the world and documented it, do some googling. However, take the best of engines and treat them like crap and they will repay you with crap in spades so service history will be worth looking into.