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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird View Post
    Anyone who hasn't ridden a Street Triple probably doesn't realise what a potent weapon they are, especially in the tighter stuff. Pinpoint handling and a surprisingly good power to weight ratio (very similar to my Blackbird) means that it will hold its own or even embarrass bigger capacity machines. As I mentioned in the review, stepping down from the 1100cc 'bird to a 675 seemed a bit "unmanly" at first, but it didn't take long for that thought to go out the window.
    I have ridden a coupe of Blackbirds and found them to be a pretty good all round, for such a large bike. But clearly these are not really comparable rides at all. The S3 a lot more nimble and certainly a fun bike that has been very well set up to carve through the twisties. The power to weight thing is pretty impressive too
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    I have ridden a coupe of Blackbirds and found them to be a pretty good all round, for such a large bike. But clearly these are not really comparable rides at all. The S3 a lot more nimble and certainly a fun bike that has been very well set up to carve through the twisties. The power to weight thing is pretty impressive too
    Completely agree that they're not comparable in terms of function, just making the point that for everyday road use, good, smaller capacity bikes lose nothing to their bigger counterparts. The almost flat torque curve of the Triple meant that you were rarely caught in the wrong gear for a snap overtake.

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    I love the triple engines. Test rode a Street Triple R with an eye to change but stayed with the Speed 3. That was not because of any unhappiness with the Street Triple though.

    Top boxes? Never had one and don't think I ever would although I can see that they are handy. A Ventura pack rack might upset handling less, particularly if you do what they recommend and fit the pack on backward(?) so that it sits on the pillion seat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Top boxes? Never had one and don't think I ever would although I can see that they are handy. A Ventura pack rack might upset handling less, particularly if you do what they recommend and fit the pack on backward(?) so that it sits on the pillion seat.
    Ron,
    That's exactly the setup I had with my Ventura on the Triple. Lockable hard luggage is always handy but I've always been slightly wary of topboxes (ignoring looks) as some bikes are more susceptible to tankslappers with them on. Not caused by a topbox, but I had 2 bad tankslappers with the 'bird and never want to go through that again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird View Post
    Ron,
    That's exactly the setup I had with my Ventura on the Triple. Lockable hard luggage is always handy but I've always been slightly wary of topboxes (ignoring looks) as some bikes are more susceptible to tankslappers with them on. Not caused by a topbox, but I had 2 bad tankslappers with the 'bird and never want to go through that again
    Ive had more trouble with bags pulling the bike around than a top box.

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    The luggage thing can go round in circles and there's swings and roundabouts. When I had a ventura rack, not their pack, I was envious of hard luggage. Next bike had a set of Givi V35s with inner bags. Very civilised but man did the VFRs arse look big in those! Givi didn't offer hard bags for the S4R so I went with soft and still have those on the Speed Triple. Not ecstatically happy with them though.

    Were I to get another bike I'd be looking at Ventura, or possibly Kriega. Unless the bike was second hand and came with all the kit fitted...

    Meanwhile back to the OP. The Hornet 600 used to be top of the Brit middleweight class but the Street Triple took over and ruled the roost until the Yamaha 700 stole some of its thunder. I've never read of a "problem" year.

    As has been pointed out the cheap reg/rectifiers they used were crap and the Japanese Shindengen mosfet item is the way to go. I did hear that if you buy the spare part from Triumph these days you will probably get a mosfet device. It might pay to ask the seller if that item has been replaced. If I was buying a used Street Triple I'd consider buying a Shindengen off EBay just for peace of mind. The cost of the item and fitting wouldn't break the bank but the peace of mind would be worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    As has been pointed out the cheap reg/rectifiers they used were crap and the Japanese Shindengen mosfet item is the way to go. I did hear that if you buy the spare part from Triumph these days you will probably get a mosfet device. It might pay to ask the seller if that item has been replaced. If I was buying a used Street Triple I'd consider buying a Shindengen off EBay just for peace of mind. The cost of the item and fitting wouldn't break the bank but the peace of mind would be worth it.
    I think it was back in 2012 that Triumph did a free recall of Triples to have a Mosfet-type reg/rec fitted. The original was smaller than the Mosfet and was mounted down the axis of the bike. It didn't get a lot of cooling in that location (see first photo). The Mosfet was much larger and retrofitted across the axis of the bike where it got much better cooling (second and third photos). That's a quick giveaway if any bike has been part of a Triumph recall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Ive had more trouble with bags pulling the bike around than a top box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird View Post
    I think it was back in 2012 that Triumph did a free recall of Triples to have a Mosfet-type reg/rec fitted. The original was smaller than the Mosfet and was mounted down the axis of the bike. It didn't get a lot of cooling in that location (see first photo). The Mosfet was much larger and retrofitted across the axis of the bike where it got much better cooling (second and third photos). That's a quick giveaway if any bike has been part of a Triumph recall.
    Had enough of that reg/rec drama with my Speed Triple....3 reg/recs and 3 stators later. Turned out the Mosfet wasn't the saviour in that model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Owl View Post
    Had enough of that reg/rec drama with my Speed Triple....3 reg/recs and 3 stators later. Turned out the Mosfet wasn't the saviour in that model.
    On the Blackbird, if the stator was dodgy, it could screw the reg/rec too . Maybe vice versa too. A lot of people replaced their OEM reg/recs with one from an early R1. I don't know if they were a MOSFET design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird View Post
    On the Blackbird, if the stator was dodgy, it could screw the reg/rec too . Maybe vice versa too. A lot of people replaced their OEM reg/recs with one from an early R1. I don't know if they were a MOSFET design.
    I think the early 1050 stator issue was more due to design fault, though no-one seemed to know that at the time and blamed the SCR r/r. Triumph changed the rotor design to accommodate a narrower, but larger diameter stator which produced less heat and was therefore more reliable. I stopped eating stators when I changed to a Shindengen Series type r/r.
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    There is a later shidengen reg the sh847 which is used on the latest vstrom and supposedly gives the stator an easier time. Lowered the side coverthat the stator bolts to by like 10degrees. And yes that's on my STR.

    I went from a 1050 Tiger and worried if after decades of bigger bikes the 675 would be too peaky and gutless. I have no regrets 4 months on. Easy to ride and fast enough for nz roads. Budget suspension revalve/upgrade.

    Mine is an R 2011 so new lights but 1st gen. I put a low pipe on. Don't believe there's any more real power on new model and I wanted a pre 13 as the ECU can be remapped withe TuneEcU sw.

    One thing I did regret on my Tiger is it came with a topbox. It was so damn tempting to use it. It was ok on easy rides, but fuck it was the single worst thing to destroy handling. I sold it to stop me using it. Top boxes are the absolute worst place you can store anything. The nemesis of mass centralisation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Top boxes are the absolute worst place you can store anything. The nemesis of mass centralisation.
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