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    I have a contact in the UK that has promised me some drawings, I'll have to get on his case.
    I rode the RG/kX for Nick, had my own with the Doctor Joe Rotax and also rode the MBA engined version that Nick built for Mark Carkeek at at Silverstone one time
    They were all beautifully built but were a bit heavy, with todays materials I'm sure that could be fixed

    1st pic me on the Rotax one and Mark on the MBA at Snetterton I think
    2nd is me and my chief sponsor best mate and mechanic at mallory with the rotax
    3rd is me and my GF at the time with a pair of the RG/KX scitsu but not sure where that is
    4th is me fumbling around with a misfire on RG/KX at mallory park

    i have now got the drawings
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    I see there's one of the Scitsu's is a monoshock. Did you convert it or was it done like that ? Most seemed to be twinshock as that is easiest with the full length plates.
    Nothing says 1980's like white boots and skinny tyres, LOL...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    I see there's one of the Scitsu's is a monoshock. Did you convert it or was it done like that ? Most seemed to be twinshock as that is easiest with the full length plates.
    Nothing says 1980's like white boots and skinny tyres, LOL...
    nothing wrong with skinny tyres
    the mba was built with mono shock

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    Thanks for the extra photos, and I'm interested in seeing anything else you'd like to share, especially construction details.

    I tried to pull some more details out of one photo in Photoshop but didn't have a lot of luck.

    cheers,
    Michael
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Moore View Post
    Thanks for the extra photos, and I'm interested in seeing anything else you'd like to share, especially construction details.

    I tried to pull some more details out of one photo in Photoshop but didn't have a lot of luck.

    cheers,
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    if you pm me your email i can send you the photos i have of plate plans

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    I've done that. FWIW, every page on my eurospares.com website has a mailto: tag at the bottom that will reach me, should someone need to do so.

    cheers,
    Michael

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    A 50cc Scitsu (modern replica with advice from Dawson) that was in a UK show report

    http://martinsquiresautomotiveillust...ford-show.html

    Whilst passing the Classic 50cc Racing Club this racer with an unusual frame construction
    caught my eye. Built by Alan Leeson in 2010 with permission from Tony Dawson to see
    whether it would produce a lighter frame, the result was that the frame weighed about the
    same as a tubular example. This machine is currently raced in the Classic 50 cc class. Alan
    plans to build another bike with this frame to take to Bonneville in 2016, and the idea
    makes a lot of sense as the majority of the bike can be dismantled and packed into hand
    luggage, I look forward to hearing how he gets on.

    Tony Dawson raced sidecars in the 60s and is most famous for inventing the Astralite wheel,
    a lightweight pressed aluminium wheel which started production in 1977 and by the end of
    the 1980s over 1500 wheels were being sold globally per year. As well as designing wheels
    Tony Dawson also formed a company called S.C.I.T.S.U. (Selfish Conduct Inhibits True
    Sporting Union) in 1978. The company was founded to produce components for road race
    bikes. This aluminium frame design was used on a number of Road Racing bikes back in the
    1970's mostly using larger engines than this 50cc example. A bike with this frame design
    appeared on Tomorrow's World in the Mid. 1970s. Tony patented the design and some think
    that if he hadn't the Japanese may well have taken it on, as it is a design that could be
    easily automated due to it being a series of aluminium plates bolted together. The ride
    hight can be adjusted by changing the vertical plates, and the tank is sandwiched between
    the top two plates. The construction is surprisingly strong, but still enables a certain amount
    of twist that is needed to maintain grip on a road racing machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Thanks for linking that Michael. Performance Bike mag, UK, did a write up on a readers special which used what was probably a Dawson built frame for a TZ.
    It ran an LC engine and was road legal. I'll see if I can find the copy I have here and send it to Husa to scan and post.

    Having built several boats, a sheet frame using ply has great appeal.
    Here you go.
    I must send your books back at some stage
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    Thanks, I should pull out my boxes of PB and go through the Readers' Specials to see what else I've forgotten about over the years. Here's a favorite of mine by Simon Martin:



    cheers,
    Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Moore View Post
    Thanks, I should pull out my boxes of PB and go through the Readers' Specials to see what else I've forgotten about over the years. Here's a favorite of mine by Simon Martin:

    http://www.eurospares.com/graphics/s...a4pb078975.jpg

    cheers,
    Michael
    My fav Simon Martin was the all fabricated Single.
    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1130228408
    Try and find a photo of him not looking slightly manic

    Although not Simon Martin this one is pretty special as well.
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    Those mags are boxed under the house. I painted my early 50 like the simoto. It looked about just as bad. Tastes change huh?. The single was a bit of a waste of time from all accounts yeah?
    Don't you look at my accountant.
    He's the only one I've got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Those mags are boxed under the house. I painted my early 50 like the simoto. It looked about just as bad. Tastes change huh?. The single was a bit of a waste of time from all accounts yeah?
    Against the stan stephens harris 660 5 valve and a brace of supermono ducatis and also morris's self devloped bmw? yes, it was outgunned ,but it still is a work of art.

    Do me a favour and find the one with the Yellow and White RZ250, thats was my original buckets first colour scheme too.
    it was also in the two stroke specials or tunning issue.



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    Here's the patent document for Peter Williams "Shell" frame concept

    http://www.eurospares.com/graphics/c...O0189916A1.pdf

    cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Moore View Post
    Here's the patent document for Peter Williams "Shell" frame concept
    cheers,
    Michael
    Not exactly home workshop friendly is it ?
    Very suitable for electric bikes though.
    Enough published info on them for a separate electric bike page/folio on your site ?

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    I don't know enough about electrons to put together a page on E-bikes. I can treat electricity like plumbing -- pour electricity into one end of a wire and expect it to come out the other end, so making a wiring harness is pretty much where I top out.

    In his book Williams says he did a design for an early Bloor Triumph triple but found the center spark plug couldn't be accessed so that didn't go anywhere.

    Here's the E-racer built using William's concept

    http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/n...y-looked-like/

    http://www.motorcyclenews.com/sport/...ikely-to-race/

    http://www.motorcyclenews.com/sport/...-bike-update-/

    cheers,
    Michael

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