Well, that woke me up...

[R650R]

Im not sure why we have thousands of trucks destroying the roads when rail & sea options are available.
Maybe its got to do with the massive amount of RUC's the truckers pay.

It's more to do with the cost of land and storage. I started a whole another thread about this awhile back. Basically the cost per km of road/rail/coastal shipping is very similar in NZ.
With rail and coastal shipping the freight needs to be devanned/double handled/offloaded before delivery, this means more staff, time and cost. And the cost is only going up every day with osh compliance and other factors.
Without trucks many of our roads would still deteriotate due to construction, eg pumice base around taupo area gets munted everytime it rains hard. There would still be a lot of work required but no one to pay for it....
The greenies say we don't pay our fair share anyway so it seems a false economy to have an alledged conspiracy where a govt takes in 'donations' more than the cost of looking after the donor......

[R650R]

they won't want to push the dirt into the sea so where the hell are they going to truck it too? even then they will only work on one side of the slip at each end at a time as then they can chip away at it and truck it away, look how long one slip took in the manawatu gorge, this won't be sorted for a year if they can't push the shit in the drink

If you've got a few million cubic metres of quality soil.basefill/whatever that might be of use somewwhere else makes sense to take it somewhere it might get used. Even if you just pushed it into the sea it wouldnt be a simple task. You'd still need a lot of extra heavy mobile plant, skilled operators and a workable plan. It could alter coastal erosion apetterns and undermine a seperater good piece of road further along.

[R650R]

We must be the only island nation on earth that is actively trying to be ship less....

Nearly there

(Chinese outfit owns Pacifica now....)

Criminally ludicrous

Just wait til NorthPort becomes an economic reality... Tauranga as already just signed up that new big Maersk Container ship that is too big for (most) other ports at moment....

[mashman]

I think they'll have to put it in the sea but at chosen places. There's already several places along that road where they've reclaimed land and made scenic viewing points. Bound to be several bays where the road and rail could be moved out away from the cliffs.

Awesome sauce. More fishing points for tourists.

[sidecar bob]

You'd be the first cunt to start moaning if it was Kiwis stuck in China, and our team rescued the locals first.

Do ya rekon I would?
It never occurred to me that disaster relief/rescue should be dished out on a racial preference basis until today, but I'll be looking out for it in the future.
Point is, they hooked their own out & fucked off, leaving everybody else to go & get fucked. Its not the Kiwi way, but then theyre not Kiwis.

[sidecar bob]

If you've got a few million cubic metres of quality soil.basefill/whatever that might be of use somewwhere else makes sense to take it somewhere it might get used. Even if you just pushed it into the sea it wouldnt be a simple task. You'd still need a lot of extra heavy mobile plant, skilled operators and a workable plan. It could alter coastal erosion apetterns and undermine a seperater good piece of road further along.

They have the base material right on hand to build a road further from the base of the cliff by using the material that is currently causing the problem. But im no roading engineer.

[Akzle]

Do ya rekon I would?
Point is, they hooked their own out & fucked off, leaving everybody else to go & get fucked. Its not the Kiwi way, but then theyre not Kiwis.

are you ever not uninvitedly-racist to anyone not-white?

[sidecar bob]

are you ever not uninvitedly-racist to anyone not-white?

Hows that racist? The racists are the ones that selected a certain race to rescue & left the rest, That's racist, not the guy that's pointing it out.
But then theyre not white, so how could they possibly be racist?
What part of their self serving ignorance do you find appealing?

[Akzle]

Good too see the Chinese tourists were safely evacuated by a helicopter chartered by the Chinese Embassy. Fuck everyone else though, as long as their own are safe.
Do these people even have part of a soul?

≠ "not racist"

Hows that racist? The racists are the ones that selected a certain race to rescue & left the rest, That's racist, not the guy that's pointing it out.
But then theyre not white, so how could they possibly be racist?

Funnily enough "the governments" are "responsible" for their "citizens". the same shit will/has/does happen all over the world.

tsunami in bali? (or wherever the fuck it was that whatever the fuck it was that happened) NZ consul deals with -dun-dun-dun- NZ citizens; earthquake in japan, america evacuates -dun-dun-dun- american citizens.

it's not racist. it's just one of the "benefits" of signing up to be a "citizen"

we don't have the one world jewvernment just yet, ol' buddy.
and even you (frequently) feel the need to differentiate yourself from other humans, based mostly on your melanin deficiency and the relative sphericity of their eyes...

[Madness]

I think you'll find that they probably uplifted Chinese people based on their nationality rather than their ethnicity or the shape of their eyes.

[jasonu]

Made the news here
http://www.ktvz.com/news/national-wo...ding/158059587

[Crasherfromwayback]

Do ya rekon I would?
but then theyre not Kiwis.

You're as racist as any cunt here.

are you ever not uninvitedly-racist to anyone not-white?

Hows that racist? The racists are the ones that selected a certain race to rescue & left the rest, That's racist, not the guy that's pointing it out.
But then theyre not white, so how could they possibly be racist?
What part of their self serving ignorance do you find appealing?

≠ "not racist"



Funnily enough "the governments" are "responsible" for their "citizens". the same shit will/has/does happen all over the world.

tsunami in bali? (or wherever the fuck it was that whatever the fuck it was that happened) NZ consul deals with -dun-dun-dun- NZ citizens; earthquake in japan, america evacuates -dun-dun-dun- american citizens.

it's not racist. it's just one of the "benefits" of signing up to be a "citizen"

we don't have the one world jewvernment just yet, ol' buddy.
and even you (frequently) feel the need to differentiate yourself from other humans, based mostly on your melanin deficiency and the relative sphericity of their eyes...

I think you'll find that they probably uplifted Chinese people based on their nationality rather than their ethnicity or the shape of their eyes.

And there we have it. Racism 101.

[Crasherfromwayback]

What's with the Red Bob? Strike a nerve, or was it to match your neck? Thought you were above that.

[Akzle]

What's with the Red Bob? Strike a nerve, or was it to match your neck? Thought you were above that.

he must be on a roll. i thought it was just me. he's been dying to give me red back for ages.

[Laava]

I was talkng to one of my neighbours today who, up until very recently, was the manager of Mainfreight up here in whangas. Anyway, as a consequence of the ferries not moving freight, the depots in wellies and picton choke up with all the freight that still goes as far as it can. Then when the flow starts to move again it is the stuff that was at the depot first that ends up being the last to ship out. Lots of angry phone calls ensue etc