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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylegs View Post
    Did you see it?

    ...you would have to hang around a pie shop to see Gerry...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellipsis View Post
    ...you would have to hang around a pie shop to see Gerry...
    Too true though the question was actually for the resident moron

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    I heard the transport lobby is not losing money as they are putting up the cost of SI freight about 20% to compensate for the longer journey.
    Even a 20% surcharge won't fully cover the extra costs of more wages for longer journey and extra diesel andctyre wear. Also with extra time it means lost potential freight journeys. Some trucks are doubleshifted and if it's late even once there's costs involved
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    Don't think the inland road is going to fix everything either. Heard a resident along the road on radio saying that the last time SH1 was closed,they had buses and trucks getting jammed on the tight bends. Heavy tow outfits did well out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Don't think the inland road is going to fix everything either. Heard a resident along the road on radio saying that the last time SH1 was closed,they had buses and trucks getting jammed on the tight bends. Heavy tow outfits did well out of it.
    Don't think the inland road is going to be able to take general traffic anytime soon either despite the sharp corners. Evidently the Army had to turn back again today with their second detachment due to slip dangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stylo View Post
    Don't think the inland road is going to be able to take general traffic anytime soon either despite the sharp corners. Evidently the Army had to turn back again today with their second detachment due to slip dangers.
    As if things are not bad enough eh Any other army no problem but our lot getting involved in..........well anything to be fair
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98tls View Post
    As if things are not bad enough eh Any other army no problem but our lot getting involved in..........well anything to be fair
    When I saw the size of the convoy, I thought, "shit have we got that many vehicles that run" - then the obvious "how many will finish up being towed?"
    Good effort though.

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    have they even decided which road they are going to put their resources into first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    have they even decided which road they are going to put their resources into first?
    Got to be the inland Kaikoura road to "relieve" Kaikoura first. Then from the looks of it, maintain the alternative route through the Lewis which is already suffering as it wasn't built for the loads.
    God only knows what comes after that. Coastal shipping ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Got to be the inland Kaikoura road to "relieve" Kaikoura first. Then from the looks of it, maintain the alternative route through the Lewis which is already suffering as it wasn't built for the loads.
    God only knows what comes after that. Coastal shipping ?
    Agree about the Inland Rd to Kaikoura - provide access for the town and allow for rebuilding/repairing. Also allow for the tourist activities to start again as soon as other infrastructure is up and running. Yes, you'll have to drive in and out on the same road but if you want to go dolphin watching then you'd do that.

    Now for an outsider's point-of-view: A couple of nights ago the news showed contractors working on it from either end - a couple of father/son teams - and they seemed to now what they were doing - getting the road passable for heavy vehicles and four-wheel drive vehicles. Then along comes civil defence and the road is closed because of possible slips... so why aren't they getting on with dealing with the possible slips? I'm sure the contractors have experience to deal with slips that keep moving as you clear them and while the aftershocks continue. I don't imagine the contractors are going to put themselves at risk.

    The Lewis Pass route seems to be a temporary solution - how often is that road closed in winter?

    Get the road from Cheviot to Oaro open and usable - can be properly repaired over time but in the meanwhile is usable by those who live along that road. Same for the road south to Clarence.

    As I said, an outsider's point-of-view... but I do wonder how much help government earthquake recovery and civil defence are? Or are they a hindrance to people getting their lives back in order and on with doing their things?

    I do think that the people of Canterbury have the patience of Job...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moi View Post

    Now for an outsider's point-of-view: A couple of nights ago the news showed contractors working on it from either end - a couple of father/son teams - and they seemed to now what they were doing - getting the road passable for heavy vehicles and four-wheel drive vehicles. Then along comes civil defence and the road is closed because of possible slips... so why aren't they getting on with dealing with the possible slips? I'm sure the contractors have experience to deal with slips that keep moving as you clear them and while the aftershocks continue. I don't imagine the contractors are going to put themselves at risk.
    Geo engineers know their stuff pretty well these days, if it's not safe it's not safe....
    I've been at a major slip on Taupo Rd minutes after it happened. Standing there you can hear the hill side creaking and crumbling even tho it looks like all that's falling has fallen. At a later date there has been substantial slips in same place. It don't take much dirt to be dead or buried alive....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Got to be the inland Kaikoura road to "relieve" Kaikoura first. Then from the looks of it, maintain the alternative route through the Lewis which is already suffering as it wasn't built for the loads.
    God only knows what comes after that. Coastal shipping ?
    Yeah inland road makes sense, hopefully someone in govt has foresight to blast the hell out of the tips of those hills on coastal road and build a tourist and truck friendly double lane super expressway along the coast.

    Rail needs level ground so they will have to open up and fix the rail line anyway, so it makes sense to spend money on road that provides maitainsnce access to rail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Yeah inland road makes sense, hopefully someone in govt has foresight to blast the hell out of the tips of those hills on coastal road and build a tourist and truck friendly double lane super expressway along the coast.

    Rail needs level ground so they will have to open up and fix the rail line anyway, so it makes sense to spend money on road that provides maitainsnce access to rail.
    fuck yeah! flatten the fucking lot and concrete over it all! because economy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Got to be the inland Kaikoura road to "relieve" Kaikoura first. Then from the looks of it, maintain the alternative route through the Lewis which is already suffering as it wasn't built for the loads.
    God only knows what comes after that. Coastal shipping ?
    Coastal shipping yep.

    And, realistically, that's the only viable option in the short term and vessels and shipping company's are already working on moving freight . The show has to go on .

    The SH1 main trunk road won't be open for a while and rail, even longer. I'm wondering how this will effect the business operations of Kiwi-rail and their staff in the South Island seeing as how the mainline has been effectively cut-off, hmm.

    Best place to plan your holiday this Christmas ? I'd say Kaikoura, should be accommodation available and they need all the help they can get ...

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