The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[Brian d marge]

It's a fucking brilliant site, the single most convenient place to get well presented data. If you don't like it then go to the source and show where the numbers are incorrect.

If you can't do that but still don't like it then feel free to post more unsubstantiated drivel, nobody will notice the difference. Probably.

Well let me get my team onto it

And we will add to the tonnage data I link to

From all sorts of different sites .. the word that should stand out is

Different .

Ya see if ya have 2 or 3 source kinda in agreement , chances are it might be right

Quoting from the farmers guide to turkeys Christmas comfort...as the one guide to rule all guides isn't one the best ideas



sent for a divine source

[bogan]

Well let me get my team onto it

And we will add to the tonnage data I link to

From all sorts of different sites .. the word that should stand out is

Different .

Ya see if ya have 2 or 3 source kinda in agreement , chances are it might be right

Quoting from the farmers guide to turkeys Christmas comfort...as the one guide to rule all guides isn't one the best ideas



sent for a divine source

That's textbook echo chamber thinking, 1 source of quality transparent verifiable data beats 100 repititions of the same obfuscated sensationalist drivel to any rational mind.

You also forgot to post any contrary data there at all

[oldrider]

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[jasonu]

You think Obama was bad for US? What criteria is that based on?

Obamacare, national debt, poor support for law enforcement, bad military strategies, stirring racial tensions (see poor support for law enforcement), ridiculous firearms rules that don't keep guns out of the hands of the baddies, the Iran deal, fuck that guy.

[yokel]

Obamacare, national debt, poor support for law enforcement, bad military strategies, stirring racial tensions (see poor support for law enforcement), ridiculous firearms rules that don't keep guns out of the hands of the baddies, the Iran deal, fuck that guy.

What you don't like Obama?
You must be some kinda racist white supremacist!

[Ocean1]

Well let me get my team onto it

And we will add to the tonnage data I link to

From all sorts of different sites .. the word that should stand out is

Different .

Ya see if ya have 2 or 3 source kinda in agreement , chances are it might be right

Quoting from the farmers guide to turkeys Christmas comfort...as the one guide to rule all guides isn't one the best ideas



sent for a divine source

Ah, looks like your unsubstantiated drivel is fairly easy to spot after all. My bad.

Read this again and see if you can try again without the drivel, eh?

If you don't like it then go to the source and show where the numbers are incorrect.

If you can't do that but still don't like it then feel free to post more unsubstantiated drivel, nobody will notice the difference. Probably.

[TheDemonLord]

Obamacare, national debt, poor support for law enforcement, bad military strategies, stirring racial tensions (see poor support for law enforcement), ridiculous firearms rules that don't keep guns out of the hands of the baddies, the Iran deal, fuck that guy.

I was watching this last night - some interesting perspectives regarding Obama's leadership:



I think they are possibly being a bit generous with how much of a chance they gave Obama, but still an interesting PoV none-the-less.

[mashman]

Quoting from the farmers guide to turkeys Christmas comfort...as the one guide to rule all guides isn't one the best ideas

So to summarise, , the conversation so far

[Brian d marge]

Ah, looks like your unsubstantiated drivel is fairly easy to spot after all. My bad.

Read this again and see if you can try again without the drivel, eh?

Yes I will try again,
obviously its not on ur radar

Quoting from the UN , CIA big book of facts , good

quoting from as many sources as I can find , bad

That is what ur saying isnt it?

, just as an aside if u look at the top of the post usually in big bold letters , there is a dead give a way .....

[jasonu]

What you don't like Obama?
You must be some kinda racist white supremacist!

Na mate just one of those undereducated white guys...

[Ocean1]

Yes I will try again,
obviously its not on ur radar

Quoting from the UN , CIA big book of facts , good

quoting from as many sources as I can find , bad

That is what ur saying isnt it?

, just as an aside if u look at the top of the post usually in big bold letters , there is a dead give a way .....

There's a bunch of shit not on my radar. Pathetic, uninformed Chicken Little impersonations for one.

It's really not all that difficult to back your shit up if you're right, dude. Here leme show you: http://socialreport.msd.govt.nz/econ...nequality.html

See, as defined by the extremely left leaning UN in GINI coefficients income inequality has moved fuck all in 20 years. And that's before you've taxed all them rich pricks a shitload and given a large wad of that to poor pricks the difference in actual spending power is sweet fuck all. Which is what that previous graph showed, btw.

Or is Stat'sNZ not an approved source?

And I still haven't seen the data that shows where everyone's work effort produces exactly the same value, wana give that a shot while you're on the job?

[Brian d marge]

There's a bunch of shit not on my radar. Pathetic, uninformed Chicken Little impersonations for one.

It's really not all that difficult to back your shit up if you're right, dude. Here leme show you: http://socialreport.msd.govt.nz/econ...nequality.html

See, as defined by the extremely left leaning UN in GINI coefficients income inequality has moved fuck all in 20 years. And that's before you've taxed all them rich pricks a shitload and given a large wad of that to poor pricks the difference in actual spending power is sweet fuck all. Which is what that previous graph showed, btw.

Or is Stat'sNZ not an approved source?

And I still haven't seen the data that shows where everyone's work effort produces exactly the same value, wana give that a shot while you're on the job?

20 years Gini ,,,,

give me a break , so this is the GINI produced by statistic NZ , for the last 20 year ( after the "economic reforms "

http://www.chartbookofeconomicinequality.com/inequality-by-country/new-zealand/

Snip "I still haven't seen the data that shows where everyone's work effort produces exactly the same value,"

I wouldnt know how to answer that one , suffice to say , depends what you call value , How valuable is the plumber to the rich man with a blocked toilet ? pretty valuable I would say. How valuable are the folks in the beehive , not valuable to some ,,,,,

Im sure there some work co ops that have a flat pay scale, but it will take some diggin ,

[Ocean1]

20 years Gini ,,,,

give me a break , so this is the GINI produced by statistic NZ , for the last 20 year ( after the "economic reforms "

http://www.chartbookofeconomicinequality.com/inequality-by-country/new-zealand/

Good find!

Look a bit more closely and you'll see "Gini, equiv disposable household income" right there on the graph. Isn't the shape of that curve familiar? It's exactly the same data I posted, showing that "income inequality has moved fuck all in 20 years". The very same data you immediately attempted to discredit.

And, in spite of the fact that, while you claim the data's from statistics NZ, the publisher seems to make no such claim. Which would normally immediately write them off as a credible reference, except...

Not that I doubt that's what the source was. Mainly because the graph itself is credited to that world renowned mathematician Max Roser, the very same guy that produced the graph I originally referenced. In fact I'd say the chances are that it's been pulled from that exact site.

You really should find another hobby, dude.

Snip "I still haven't seen the data that shows where everyone's work effort produces exactly the same value,"

I wouldnt know how to answer that one , suffice to say , depends what you call value , How valuable is the plumber to the rich man with a blocked toilet ? pretty valuable I would say. How valuable are the folks in the beehive , not valuable to some ,,,,,

Im sure there some work co ops that have a flat pay scale, but it will take some diggin ,

Depends. If he's charging more than I want to pay I'd find someone else or do the job myself.

If you like work co-ops then I'm sure you can find one that can find a use for your skills mate. I'm sure the community spirit will make up for the 3rd world living conditions.

[pritch]

How valuable is the plumber to the rich man with a blocked toilet ? pretty valuable I would say.

Sorta reminds me of the old joke. The Doctor phoned the plumber late at night to report that his toilet was blocked. The plumber told him to take two aspirin and call again in the morning. The Doctor being somewhat dubious questioned if that would work. The plumber replies, "No, but that's what you told me when I called you."