Dobbed in weed-growing parents

[Jeff Sichoe]

"Total ignorance?" The only thing I haven't done is smoked it. I belkieve in knowing what I'm talking about, so have done a lot of research into the current studies and research on cannabis and what they are developing from it and it's potential. I keep up to date on it. I doubt many here do.

Tramadol is an approved medical drug for pain relief and has been around for about 40 years or so. No comparison.

I have supported the Govt. position on administering Cannabis as treatment on a case by case basis, noting that it made not a lot of difference and did not prolong the patient's life. Those who felt it did help? Good on them.

What you fail to understand, is that I am just finding it amusing to hear arguments from those who just want to get stoned.

As for not being my mate?

Comon man, you've never smoked it?

It's like... imagine you have had a few beers and are sitting in the sun on a sat arvo with your kids running around or whatever, you're relaxed, you're happy, you're buzzed.

Now take that feeling and cram it into a bong, then smoke it.

that's what you're against - someone feeling a little bit more happy than they otherwise might.

It's a plant, it grows in the ground. Yes it can kill peoples desire to ... what? make a bunch of money? work 10 hours a day for a family he never sees?

Why not just relax? why tell others that they are not allowed to relax in a manner which befits them?

[Edbear]

How exactly does Cannabis prevent life happening Ed?

And what are the 'consequences' you're talking about? If you talking about the possibility of being convicted for Cannabis use, how can you possibly suggest that such a consequence is justified?

Preventing what? Life happening?



Time and place for most things. I am very happily married, so one of these things is no problem, the other two would negate my life. Got too many more important and fun things to do.

Getting stoned is a waste of time.

[QUOTE]. What is sad, here,. is that so many of you seem to be unable to function, or have any kind of fun without recreational drugs to alter your mind and mood. Says a lot about your life, or lack of...

I am so busy with work and family, now having three grandkids and another on the way, that drugs as debilitating as the common recreational ones, and yes, that includes alcohol, are a barrier to having fun. They are a selfish option that brings no pleasure to your mates or partners except to laugh, (or sigh in exasperation), at your silliness when under their influence. What a waste of time and money... [QUOTE]

Consequences? Smoking anything is bad for you, your lungs were not designed to cope with smoke inhalation. Not just the law catching up with you either. People do stupid things while under the influence of mind-altering drugs, too.

[Edbear]

Comon man, you've never smoked it?

It's like... imagine you have had a few beers and are sitting in the sun on a sat arvo with your kids running around or whatever, you're relaxed, you're happy, you're buzzed.

Now take that feeling and cram it into a bong, then smoke it.

that's what you're against - someone feeling a little bit more happy than they otherwise might.

It's a plant, it grows in the ground. Yes it can kill peoples desire to ... what? make a bunch of money? work 10 hours a day for a family he never sees?

Why not just relax? why tell others that they are not allowed to relax in a manner which befits them?

I'm not telling anyone what to do, it's entirely your choice. I just find it amusing to hear silly arguments. And as I just posted, smoking is bad for you.

[Jeff Sichoe]

Ed - smoking weed is like having a hot shower

you really don't know what you're missing till you try it.

[Katman]

Getting stoned is a waste of time.

So if getting stoned and watching some telly is a waste of time, what is sitting and watching telly?

[Katman]

Consequences? Smoking anything is bad for you, your lungs were not designed to cope with smoke inhalation. Not just the law catching up with you either. People do stupid things while under the influence of mind-altering drugs, too.

Smoking isn't the only way to take Cannabis Ed.

If people want to risk damage to their lungs though, that's their choice.

[Madness]

I'm not telling anyone what to do, it's entirely your choice. I just find it amusing to hear silly arguments. And as I just posted, smoking is bad for you.

More ignorant bullshit.

Keep it coming Ed, I've missed your level of retardation to be honest. We've had to make do with Husapedo lately and he aint got nothing on you.

[Katman]

More ignorant bullshit.

Keep it coming Ed, I've missed your level of retardation to be honest. We've had to make do with Husapedo lately and he aint got nothing on you.

Well, I'd say it's a fairly even contest to be honest.

[Edbear]

Ed - smoking weed is like having a hot shower

you really don't know what you're missing till you try it.

You missed the point about smoking.

[Edbear]

Smoking isn't the only way to take Cannabis Ed.

If people want to risk damage to their lungs though, that's their choice.

True! But for me, I'd rather keep my faculties intact. Much more fun that way. Fogging up my brain with drugs and/or alcohol, reducing my physical abilities, (and sensibilities), is not for me.

If Tramadol had adverse effects, I would have gone onto something else years ago.

[Edbear]

So if getting stoned and watching some telly is a waste of time, what is sitting and watching telly?

For the most part, also a waste of time. Not much worth watching these days IMO.

[Katman]

You missed the point about smoking.

I agree that putting anything other than clean air into your lungs carries a certain degree of risk Ed.

But the same could be said about those who choose to inhale the smoke from a burnout.

(But I'll also come back to the fact that smoking is not the only way one can use Cannabis.)

And I'm still interested in hearing how you can morally justify someone being convicted for Cannabis use.

[Edbear]

I agree that putting anything other than clean air into your lungs carries a certain degree of risk Ed.

But the same could be said about those who choose to inhale the smoke from a burnout.

(But I'll also come back to the fact that smoking is not the only way one can use Cannabis.)

And I'm still interested in hearing how you can morally justify someone being convicted for Cannabis use.

I have never addressed the morality of the law, just that it is the law and people can't squeal if they break it and get caught. Just like speeding.

The only way is to lobby for a law change, and so far, TPTB have decided it's not going to change. The issue from their perspective, is that the drug, like alcohol, does cause unwanted side effects, esp. in driving and operating machinery, as also in many professions requiring alertness. So how do they account for that in law? Alcohol is easier to police than cannabis being much more obvious in its effects.

[Jeff Sichoe]

You missed the point about smoking.

Dude, as Katman said, you choose to breathe in all sorts of bad shit all the time.

You ever read the warning label on chain-lube?

Known to cause genetic defects.

Do you put on full PPE when you lube your chain?

[Katman]

I have never addressed the morality of the law, just that it is the law and people can't squeal if they break it and get caught. Just like speeding.

I'll direct you back to post #1952 Ed.

The 'consequences' you talk of can only be legal consequences.

So again, how do you morally justify someone being convicted for Cannabis use?