From bad to worse?

**Blackbird** · 8th December 2016, 10:01

Originally Posted by Voltaire

I started off as an apprentice Electrician working for the Post Office based in Newmarket, I caught the train into the city to attend meetings the other day and passed the old workshops, now lots of multi story apartments, the CPO where I used to also work is now a train station.

As long as I have my laptop and phone with me I can work from anywhere, today working from home....I wonder if working from home is easing us into just being at home not working.

Still got my ticket so potentially could be that old guy at Bunnings who knows stuff.

Yep, when I retired, I was retained by my old company for a year to manage a project and largely worked from home by PC. In some ways, it was quite good as I could focus on the task and not get deflected by the corporate crap which gets in the way of daily life in a big organisation. They wanted me to do some more work when I finished the project but that's not why I retired early so turned them down. Really pleased I did!

Funny you should mention the old guy at Bunnings. We haven't got one up this way but Placemakers at Whitianga is staffed by older people who really know their stuff and it's a joy to shop there.

**FatMax** · 8th December 2016, 11:31

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Being PM in NZ is pretty polarizing... The number of people with a passionate hatred of the guy is astounding when by all accounts, in person hes a pretty decent chap. Hes resisted the hate politics that seem to be popular right now..

Hes not my natural choice - but to be fair he has provided stability and direction. Hes rised our profile overseas and seems to get on well with other world leaders...

I think hes done the right thing - giving a new guy a chance to get going before an election but we will see. What I would hope is that his opponents dont start throwing in all the hate messages etc. Thats how the trumps of the world get elected..

Much as I never trusted a word he said (JK that is, not you Paul), this has got to be the most sensible post of this debate, especially the Trump warning.

Doubt it will make any difference to the inbred apathy that surrounds NZ voters

**pete376403** · 8th December 2016, 19:01

Not Collins. The year is looking (very slightly, almost immeasurably) better.

**Brian d marge** · 8th December 2016, 21:57

Different masks on the same face

there might be a better way .......

**yokel** · 12th December 2016, 16:35

http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politi...-a-stupid-idea

Nek minnit, Judith Collins is going for ya job and we now have a solo mum as deputy PM.

I hope this Bill English guy is not a cuck.

**russd7** · 12th December 2016, 17:59

news head line on the telly tonight,
"bill english starts as our new prime minister, but what is his stance on gay marriage."

pleased we don't have any real problems that need dealt with

**Grumph** · 12th December 2016, 18:36

Originally Posted by russd7

news head line on the telly tonight,
"bill english starts as our new prime minister, but what is his stance on gay marriage."

pleased we don't have any real problems that need dealt with

It might not be a "real" problem but the Pike River families are going to be a major annoyance for him. And good on them too.

The Govt is dammed if they don't let them in - and dammed if something is found that goes against what their experts have said.
The deal struck with mine management just smells worse the longer things roll on.

**russd7** · 12th December 2016, 19:49

Originally Posted by Grumph

It might not be a "real" problem but the Pike River families are going to be a major annoyance for him. And good on them too.

The Govt is dammed if they don't let them in - and dammed if something is found that goes against what their experts have said.
The deal struck with mine management just smells worse the longer things roll on.

hear what you are saying but i heard that it is worksafe that are stopping re-entry, kinda a real hard one. how much life do you risk to bring out bones, and before any one says that if it were my family ect ect ect, then think again. i would not want some one to risk their life to bring out bones, comes a point where one must say that life is for the living and the dead know no different, time to move on.

**Ocean1** · 12th December 2016, 19:56

Originally Posted by russd7

hear what you are saying but i heard that it is worksafe that are stopping re-entry, kinda a real hard one. how much life do you risk to bring out bones, and before any one says that if it were my family ect ect ect, then think again. i would not want some one to risk their life to bring out bones, comes a point where one must say that life is for the living and the dead know no different, time to move on.

It's even simpler than that: When you make someone responsible for safety then you have to abide by their decisions.

**merv** · 12th December 2016, 22:00

I could never figure out why they don't have some sort of safe vehicle that can go up the drift that wouldn't trigger methane explosions.

Searching online there is this vehicle https://www.draeger.com/en_aunz/Appl...stems/MRV-9000 but would it be good enough?

All we've had with Pike River is no-one will go in there. So why isn't there some sort of robotic vehicle that can go in without people on board? Is this heading in the right direction but have they not been built yet? http://www.argusrobotics.com/a8minerescuevehicle.html

**granstar** · 13th December 2016, 17:03

Being tested as you speak...

**Skidmark McRaven** · 13th December 2016, 17:39

Hahahahahaha......Bernie Monk or Tim Shadbolt for PM!

**husaberg** · 13th December 2016, 17:42

Originally Posted by merv

I could never figure out why they don't have some sort of safe vehicle that can go up the drift that wouldn't trigger methane explosions.

Searching online there is this vehicle https://www.draeger.com/en_aunz/Appl...stems/MRV-9000 but would it be good enough?

All we've had with Pike River is no-one will go in there. So why isn't there some sort of robotic vehicle that can go in without people on board? Is this heading in the right direction but have they not been built yet? http://www.argusrobotics.com/a8minerescuevehicle.html

There has already been 3 robots that have failed in the drift.