The most dangerous things you see other riders doing on the road.

**Daffyd** · 13th January 2017, 22:44

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Gotta burst your bubble on this one. Here's what the Rule says

Safety helmets for all terrain vehicles, motorcycles, and mopeds
(1)
A person must not drive or ride on an all terrain vehicle, on a motorcycle, in a sidecar, or on a moped on a road unless the person is wearing a safety helmet of an approved standard that is securely fastened.

Securely fastened.

Read my post again... The operative word was HERE!

**mossy1200** · 14th January 2017, 09:15

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...gend-2017.html

The future of safe riding.

**eldog** · 14th January 2017, 11:24

Originally Posted by cassina

Anything under the speed limit. Some will say the speed limits slow too.

I ride in groups who don't care (as far as I know, if your slow) - proceed at your own pace.

If I arrive at a stop and the group is already to move on - no worries.
As long as I know the destination, I will get there.

If I want to go faster than slow, I do that when on my own, I don't want to put others at risk.

There are definite places where the indicated limit could be increased.
but I guess this would depend on a whole lot of items
- the biggest of which the general public cant drive at higher speeds.

following too close to me can be dangerous for your hearing and your patience.

**roogazza** · 14th January 2017, 12:57

Out for a morning fang this morning and a classic happened. No crash, but a 4x4 pulled out to pass a campervan who then decided to speed up to 104 kph ! The 4x4 was out stranded on the wrong side abviously too scared to go over 104 ? It was out there for fuckin ages and finally crept past,finishing the pass on a no passing line !
Surely the idea is to get up it and make a quick pass which is what I always do.
All this speed kills shit has people petrified.

**old slider** · 14th January 2017, 13:12

Originally Posted by roogazza

Out for a morning fang this morning and a classic happened. No crash, but a 4x4 pulled out to pass a campervan who then decided to speed up to 104 kph ! The 4x4 was out stranded on the wrong side abviously too scared to go over 104 ? It was out there for fuckin ages and finally crept past,finishing the pass on a no passing line !
Surely the idea is to get up it and make a quick pass which is what I always do.
All this speed kills shit has people petrified.

Exactly. Trying to stay within the law when passing other traffic can be, and is, out right dangerous, but someone stated earlier that we do not need to pass other vehicles.

**roogazza** · 14th January 2017, 13:20

Originally Posted by old slider

Exactly. Trying to stay within the law when passing other traffic can be, and is, out right dangerous, but someone stated earlier that we do not need to pass other vehicles.

I couldn't count the number of passes on people doing 90 kph this morning.Trouble is my beast is doin go to jail speeds in seconds.

**old slider** · 14th January 2017, 13:34

Originally Posted by roogazza

I couldn't count the number of passes on people doing 90 kph this morning.Trouble is my beast is doin go to jail speeds in seconds.

Lol, far safer than spending half the day on the wrong side of the road.

Those others all doing 90 may have been out on group trips, hope they didnt pressure you in to passing them all. bwahaha

**jasonu** · 14th January 2017, 13:38

Originally Posted by cassina

When I decide to pass my thinking is a ticket for speeding is cheaper than a risking head on not passing over the speed limit.

Why do you even get out of bed in the morning?

**Scubbo** · 14th January 2017, 14:03

it's OK to admit you felt that pressure Cassina, first step to fixing the problem

**WristTwister** · 14th January 2017, 14:13

Originally Posted by cassina

In my opinion its not the group leaders who are the ones saying you must keep up if you want to be in our group but some following riders who make a decision for themselves that it is better to be seen by others keeping up. There was a public group ride in ChCh raising money for St John ambulance where a safety briefing was given but that did not stop some riders feeling under pressure/ego to keep up.

So you're saying that a rider who may choose to keep up with quicker riders is putting themselves at risk. Even with a pre-ride briefing some continue to choose not to "ride their own pace" and even though other riders would rather someone ride within their abilities and not come off. So really it's the individual's choice then isn't it?

**Laava** · 14th January 2017, 14:32

Originally Posted by cassina

In my opinion its not the group leaders who are the ones saying you must keep up if you want to be in our group but some following riders who make a decision for themselves that it is better to be seen by others keeping up. There was a public group ride in ChCh raising money for St John ambulance where a safety briefing was given but that did not stop some riders feeling under pressure/ego to keep up.

Yep, I am sure this is a part of it. Also the rubber band effect where half the group overtakes and stays at pace whereas the remaining half are now going slower and consequently speed the fuck up to catch up when they finally get past. It is human nature and you can find yourself doing this without consciously thinking about it.

**george formby** · 14th January 2017, 15:32

Originally Posted by Laava

Yep, I am sure this is a part of it. Also the rubber band effect where half the group overtakes and stays at pace whereas the remaining half are now going slower and consequently speed the fuck up to catch up when they finally get past. It is human nature and you can find yourself doing this without consciously thinking about it.

Yup, that's my take on it. Takes presence of mind to make good, safe, calls when the riders ahead get past and disappear.

**pritch** · 14th January 2017, 15:47

Originally Posted by cassina

When I decide to pass my thinking is a ticket for speeding is cheaper than a risking head on not passing over the speed limit.

Credit where credit is due. That's the most sensible comment I've ever seen you make.

**eldog** · 14th January 2017, 20:14

Originally Posted by cassina

In my opinion its not the group leaders who are the ones saying you must keep up if you want to be in our group but some following riders who make a decision for themselves that it is better to be seen by others keeping up. There was a public group ride in ChCh raising money for St John ambulance where a safety briefing was given but that did not stop some riders feeling under pressure/ego to keep up.

Since you don't go on group rides, what makes YOU, think they felt they were under pressure.