The most dangerous things you see other riders doing on the road.

[T.W.R]

Brilliant and hilarious turn of phrase there, T.W.R. Can I use it ....? Yes, we've clashed in the past so I hope all is forgotten/forgiven...Life's too short.

Ha more than welcome to.
Don't think we've locked horns in the past....exchanged a couple of PMs about 7yrs ago when I was trying to locate an old bike of mine that may have been held by one of your club members. But haven't clashed over anything.

[Big Dog]

When I saw your post I initially only saw

It's not unusual.

to be loved by anyone...


Then I scrolled down...

Tom Jones says so.

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[Ulsterkiwi]

Amen. Out of interest, there are a lot of cops who do in fact focus on things apart from speed.

My trio of faves were seatbelts, cellphones and stop signs.

Sadly it would seem they are in the minority, certainly in the upper echelons who determine policy and are the public face of road policing. I would love a senior officer (Inspector or above) to come out and say something like "Inappropriate speed is of course a risk factor but essentially driving like a complete knob with no visible demonstration of adherence to the road rules, awareness of what is going on around you or consideration of other road users is dangerous and leads to what we laughingly call accidents. To that end I am directing my officers on the ground to actively seek out texters, tailgaters, aggressive drivers, drunks, druggies, those who fail to signal, those who do not use proper lane discipline or otherwise fail to drive to the conditions and ticket the shit out of those useless numpties. Forget speeding, lets get people actually taking driving seriously and afford it the respect its due"

yeah, I know dreaming and all.......

Bottom line is, the public just perceive that the police are after speeders and its to collect revenue. Clearly what is being said or done does not address that perception in a way that will remove it.

here are a couple of examples:
Riding on Raumati straights, long time 70kph restriction. Guy in front of me is on a Ducati sport bike. He is riding less than 1.5m from the car in front of him at 70ish kph. I mean right up the car's arse. I am thinking, this guy has a death wish. Up ahead is a marked highway patrol car, one of the orange ones so we can all see them. The officer is looking up, not writing, not on the RT, not on the phone, not dealing with another motorist.
The car with the semi attached Ducati up his arse drives past. I see the police officer look at the scenario. Does he put on the disco lights and pull the biker over? Does he say, look mate, thats dumb shit, give yourself space or look mate here is a performance certificate for dumb shit behaviour? Does he hell, noone is going over 70 so not his problem.

Me, on a S40 with an L plate. wife's bike. Riding down a long open 50kph road near home. Doing the limit, following good lines for safety, stability and visibility. No braking, just a steady 50-55kph. Guy in a massive red ute is right up my arse. Weaving all over because he cant get past due to oncoming traffic and I am clearly in his way. No, he is not a volunteer firefighter going to a call out because we pass the firestation. He eventually speeds past me, then jumps on the brakes so that I have to as well. Takes off burning rubber, does the same thing. Hanging out of the cab screaming at me, shaking his fists flipping the bird, accelerating then jumping on the brakes in front of me. I back right off, I don't want trouble. This continues for about 600-700metres. I am passing a mates workshop who has a car garage. I stop there because he is my mate and has several big fuck off wrenches that make for pretty good persuaders. The guy in the ute gets the message and roars off still shaking his fist and screaming. I am WTF?
So, I have his plate, ring *555 tell them the story. Response? That wasn't nice we will send out a message and if anyone sees him they will have a word. Have a word? That's AOS stuff!! thats kick his door in and feed him to the dogs, they had his plate and a description and knew where he was lived. Why not pay him a visit rather than hope someone sees him? If my report is enough to pull him over if seen, why not enough to go looking?

Look I do not subscribe to the theory that the police are a govt gang and they all suck. Most are decent men and women trying their best with limited resource available to them. In my non-expert opinion the PR side of road policing is completely screwed up. I consider myself a reasonable motorist and an average citizen but the message that I get is I can pretty much do what I like so long as its below the speed limit. That can't be right.

[Ulsterkiwi]

In the UK, if you get pinged speeding you are given the choice of paying the fine and getting demerits or paying for and attending an "education/training" day. I would like to see this idea broadened to road users who are a potential hazard, the chancers, the self righteous and the bullies. Something along the lines of "You're driving/riding like a knobber, pay $100 and spend a day being educated or pay $200 and have "I'm a knob" on your licence.

Just a thought.

My brother back in UK was recently telling me of attending one of these education days because he had racked up too many points. He said 80% of those attending were there in body only. One guy slept through the whole thing. He said it changed his attitude to speed limits but clearly not all! I guess no solution is perfect and will not always work as intended.

[george formby]

My brother back in UK was recently telling me of attending one of these education days because he had racked up too many points. He said 80% of those attending were there in body only. One guy slept through the whole thing. He said it changed his attitude to speed limits but clearly not all! I guess no solution is perfect and will not always work as intended.

It was my Mam telling me about it. She is in her 70's and got done for speeding in her Honda Jazz, lol.

She freely admitted to learning not a lot, she's a good driver coming from a petrol head household, but found it acutely embarrassing. I'm not sure if she's getting lighter shoes or a radar detector as a consequence.

[Moi]

Sadly it would seem they are in the minority, certainly in the upper echelons who determine policy and are the public face of road policing. I would love a senior officer (Inspector or above) to come out and say something like "Inappropriate speed is of course a risk factor but essentially driving like a complete knob with no visible demonstration of adherence to the road rules, awareness of what is going on around you or consideration of other road users is dangerous and leads to what we laughingly call accidents. To that end I am directing my officers on the ground to actively seek out texters, tailgaters, aggressive drivers, drunks, druggies, those who fail to signal, those who do not use proper lane discipline or otherwise fail to drive to the conditions and ticket the shit out of those useless numpties. Forget speeding, lets get people actually taking driving seriously and afford it the respect its due"

yeah, I know dreaming and all.......

Bottom line is, the public just perceive that the police are after speeders and its to collect revenue. Clearly what is being said or done does not address that perception in a way that will remove it...

+1

plus those who don't understand what S T O P or G I V E W A Y mean...

[awayatc]

It's all about safety......


Tui.

[nzspokes]

Amen. Out of interest, there are a lot of cops who do in fact focus on things apart from speed.

My trio of faves were seatbelts, cellphones and stop signs.

The awkward truth is we all know that's not true.

[Luckylegs]

The awkward truth is we all know that's not true.

Really, you know all of 'em?

[awayatc]

The awkward truth is we all know that's not true.

Amen....

Also some of those "other things" some cops may be looking at don't make me feel a lot safer....

Like seatbelts or rego.

Demerit points for rego on hold....

Feel sorry for the few remaining good and well meaning police officers out there.
Must be tough defending policies that are being trashed out by brainless imbeciles....
A bit like having to work for Cassina....

[rastuscat]

The awkward truth is we all know that's not true.

Ahem. Anyone who knows me knows it's true.

[awayatc]

Amen. Out of interest, there are a lot of cops who do in fact focus on things apart from speed.
.

Anybody familiar with NZ traffic policing knows that to be not true...

The "a lot of cops" part.....

[jdz89]

Today I had to make an emergency trip to the hospital in regards to my broken wrist, unfortunately I had to do something very silly and that was ride my bike there with a cast on. Obviously it's far less than ideal but I had no other option. Couldn't wear my riding jacket or wear gloves, definitely felt like the most dangerous thing I've done on my bike but I was incredibly cautious and safe.

Does anyone know the laws surrounding doing this?
The doctors told me that driving a car is legal but insurance doesn't cover you but he wasn't sure about motorbikes.

[T.W.R]

Today I had to make an emergency trip to the hospital in regards to my broken wrist, unfortunately I had to do something very silly and that was ride my bike there with a cast on. Obviously it's far less than ideal but I had no other option. Couldn't wear my riding jacket or wear gloves, definitely felt like the most dangerous thing I've done on my bike but I was incredibly cautious and safe.

Does anyone know the laws surrounding doing this?
The doctors told me that driving a car is legal but insurance doesn't cover you but he wasn't sure about motorbikes.

Amateur

In 1994 living & working in Huntly I completely shattered my left elbow in an accident in Hamilton which involved bone grafts & metalware to get it somewhere near usable & radial nerve damage (still graded as 27% permanent disability now). The 1st check-up had to get to Waikato hospital and had no other option than ride my bike.
It hadn't run for ages and wouldn't start so bump started it and rode to Hamilton sporting a full cast from bicep to wrist and unable to use my left hand at all.....got a few looks walking into the hospital in leathers carrying a helmet in one hand and the other poking out the end of a cast with piano wire slings for my fingers.
Surgeon wasn't too impressed and didn't say to much when I geared up to head back to Huntly

[jdz89]

Amateur

In 1994 living & working in Huntly I completely shattered my left elbow in an accident in Hamilton which involved bone grafts & metalware to get it somewhere near usable & radial nerve damage (still graded as 27% permanent disability now). The 1st check-up had to get to Waikato hospital and had no other option than ride my bike.
It hadn't run for ages and wouldn't start so bump started it and rode to Hamilton sporting a full cast from bicep to wrist and unable to use my left hand at all.....got a few looks walking into the hospital in leathers carrying a helmet in one hand and the other poking out the end of a cast with piano wire slings for my fingers.
Surgeon wasn't too impressed and didn't say to much when I geared up to head back to Huntly

What a trooper, how the hell did you use the clutch?